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<blockquote data-quote="fuzzlewump" data-source="post: 4984401" data-attributes="member: 63214">I read the post, and that's a different mindset, but I am curious what you say to someone, namely me, who makes no changes on the fly/justifications and makes no compromises with narrative and plays 4E. And enjoys it greatly. And still has his narrative coming before mechanics.I guess my point is that 4E does not require mechanics coming before narrative, and I see no where in the books that encourages or implies this mindset. I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree here, but I am still curious if you have more support for the argument that someone looking for a narrative before mechanics game will not be served by 4E. Or rather, how that someone will be served significantly better by previous editions. (I say significantly better just to say that a .000001 difference isn't significant, just something, you know, reasonable. A reasonable difference.)My standpoint is that the framework homogeneity brought about by 4E has actually made it easier for narrative to become the focus, because mechanics take a backseat. You seem the think that the opposite has happened, but I think by making everyone's mechanics the same, it let the Class Designers focus on making flavorful and interesting classes. Whether that was successful or not is a different thread, but I still think it paved the way for narrative focus.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="fuzzlewump, post: 4984401, member: 63214"] I read the post, and that's a different mindset, but I am curious what you say to someone, namely me, who makes no changes on the fly/justifications and makes no compromises with narrative and plays 4E. And enjoys it greatly. And still has his narrative coming before mechanics. I guess my point is that 4E does not require mechanics coming before narrative, and I see no where in the books that encourages or implies this mindset. I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree here, but I am still curious if you have more support for the argument that someone looking for a narrative before mechanics game will not be served by 4E. Or rather, how that someone will be served [I]significantly better[/I] by previous editions. (I say significantly better just to say that a .000001 difference isn't significant, just something, you know, reasonable. A reasonable difference.) My standpoint is that the framework homogeneity brought about by 4E has actually made it easier for narrative to become the focus, because mechanics take a backseat. You seem the think that the opposite has happened, but I think by making everyone's mechanics the same, it let the Class Designers focus on making flavorful and interesting classes. Whether that was successful or not is a different thread, but I still think it paved the way for narrative focus. [/QUOTE]

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