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<blockquote data-quote="StarFyre" data-source="post: 4985131" data-attributes="member: 26055"><p>THe realism I meant is that, have you ever swung a hockey stick, etc over your head? You physcially can do it. If i thus walked up to you, i could get hit in the face or neck with that stick, etc.</p><p></p><p>Physically you CAN do it. In our group, the Thoradorian IS a barbarian...but again, there are stuff that as the other poster said, don't really have mechanical equivalents...the charge thing i mentioned. (the barbarian is level 1 btw..so my party is starting out new campaign)</p><p></p><p>It is house ruling or making your own simplified way to do it. </p><p></p><p>For us, the swinging around the head thing, was done via a hit with a small penalty against one target, then we thought for a few seconds, would his strength allow the weaponto keep going? we figure yes since his str is so high, so human's won't stand a chance. Then it's partial damage (half) on all other targets around him and then add str bonus and any magical weapon bonuses (none in this case). </p><p></p><p>But the way we do it...i'm too busy to make up powers for stuff officially..instead, i have a 2 or 3 max roll limit. if you want to do something, i'll make it work for you in 2 d20 rolls max (rarely 3)...it's "yes, you can" gaming, as people have described before.</p><p></p><p>The grab is a grapple, then the throw is obvious (with such a strength, its obvious he could throw a human), and a warhammer scatter dice to see where the body lands. Done. </p><p></p><p>The thing is, do you allow stuff that the powers, etc don't account for? </p><p></p><p>it's correct that no D&D system really supports stuff like this really well...so which system supports it the best? Ie. there are rules for similar stuff so it's not all adhoced..(may be slower, but it's 'official'). </p><p></p><p>But then again, who cares? friends have tons of fun with it, and since they are more hardcore roleplayers, simulation style players...details like this they want, and make sense and it doesn't bother them....</p><p></p><p>Just imagine, our dark sun encounters are even more brutal.... (spines being ripped out of alive foes, climbing up creatures backs via blades into the creature's, players and enemies being cut in half, etc)...</p><p></p><p>Sanjay</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="StarFyre, post: 4985131, member: 26055"] THe realism I meant is that, have you ever swung a hockey stick, etc over your head? You physcially can do it. If i thus walked up to you, i could get hit in the face or neck with that stick, etc. Physically you CAN do it. In our group, the Thoradorian IS a barbarian...but again, there are stuff that as the other poster said, don't really have mechanical equivalents...the charge thing i mentioned. (the barbarian is level 1 btw..so my party is starting out new campaign) It is house ruling or making your own simplified way to do it. For us, the swinging around the head thing, was done via a hit with a small penalty against one target, then we thought for a few seconds, would his strength allow the weaponto keep going? we figure yes since his str is so high, so human's won't stand a chance. Then it's partial damage (half) on all other targets around him and then add str bonus and any magical weapon bonuses (none in this case). But the way we do it...i'm too busy to make up powers for stuff officially..instead, i have a 2 or 3 max roll limit. if you want to do something, i'll make it work for you in 2 d20 rolls max (rarely 3)...it's "yes, you can" gaming, as people have described before. The grab is a grapple, then the throw is obvious (with such a strength, its obvious he could throw a human), and a warhammer scatter dice to see where the body lands. Done. The thing is, do you allow stuff that the powers, etc don't account for? it's correct that no D&D system really supports stuff like this really well...so which system supports it the best? Ie. there are rules for similar stuff so it's not all adhoced..(may be slower, but it's 'official'). But then again, who cares? friends have tons of fun with it, and since they are more hardcore roleplayers, simulation style players...details like this they want, and make sense and it doesn't bother them.... Just imagine, our dark sun encounters are even more brutal.... (spines being ripped out of alive foes, climbing up creatures backs via blades into the creature's, players and enemies being cut in half, etc)... Sanjay [/QUOTE]
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