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Why is 4E so grindy?
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<blockquote data-quote="Paradox" data-source="post: 5115179" data-attributes="member: 2875"><p>4e can feel less "grindy" if the DM turns to page 20 of the DMG and focuses more on one of the other "modes" of D&D.</p><p></p><p>1- Setup - I wouldn't stretch this out too far. </p><p></p><p>2 - Exploration - This is the most common way of playing D&D; DM describes scene, players describe what they want to do, DM details the results.</p><p></p><p>3 - Conversation - This is the ineraction with various NPCs. It could be an in character haggle over prices, or telling stories at the local tavern, or asking the King permission to hunt a rare monster in his lands.</p><p></p><p>4 - Encounter - Notice that this mode isn't labeled "combat". Combat is a big part, but it's not the ONLY part. They could encounter traps, or have a skill challange. </p><p></p><p>5 - Passage of Time - For those "big project" or items that let you skip weeks of time. The wizard wants to research a new spell, the fighter wants to train. </p><p></p><p>If all your DM does is plop down a map and tell you to roll inititive, (while not exactly "wrong") he's the one that's making it too grindy. It's the DM's job to make the game move along. The DM has to inject the story. The DM has to present the situations for the players to interact with.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Paradox, post: 5115179, member: 2875"] 4e can feel less "grindy" if the DM turns to page 20 of the DMG and focuses more on one of the other "modes" of D&D. 1- Setup - I wouldn't stretch this out too far. 2 - Exploration - This is the most common way of playing D&D; DM describes scene, players describe what they want to do, DM details the results. 3 - Conversation - This is the ineraction with various NPCs. It could be an in character haggle over prices, or telling stories at the local tavern, or asking the King permission to hunt a rare monster in his lands. 4 - Encounter - Notice that this mode isn't labeled "combat". Combat is a big part, but it's not the ONLY part. They could encounter traps, or have a skill challange. 5 - Passage of Time - For those "big project" or items that let you skip weeks of time. The wizard wants to research a new spell, the fighter wants to train. If all your DM does is plop down a map and tell you to roll inititive, (while not exactly "wrong") he's the one that's making it too grindy. It's the DM's job to make the game move along. The DM has to inject the story. The DM has to present the situations for the players to interact with. [/QUOTE]
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