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<blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 9225507" data-attributes="member: 2209">5e does not have fully mindless creatures, most automaton-like things have at least a 1 int and charisma.Skeletons are explicitly not mindless. &quot;Although they lack the intellect they possessed in life, skeletons aren't mindless.&quot;&quot;When skeletons encounter living creatures, the necromantic energy that drives them compels them to kill unless they are commanded by their masters to refrain from doing so. They attack without mercy and fight until destroyed, for skeletons possess little sense of self and even less sense of self-preservation.&quot;Zombies in the MM are the closest, they are narratively described as mindless soldiers but that section also says &quot;A zombie can follow simple orders and distinguish friends from foes, but its ability to reason is limited to shambling in whatever direction it is pointed, pummeling any enemy in its path.&quot;There is also the description &quot;A zombie retains no vestiges of its former self, its mind devoid of thought and imagination. A zombie left without orders simply stands in place and rots unless something comes along that it can kill. The magic animating a zombie imbues it with evil, so left without purpose, it attacks any living creature it encounters.&quot;For many casual conceptions of evil attacking living things just because would be considered enough to consider them evil and call them evil.For some it is not evil because they have no choice to do otherwise, it is the dark magic driving them and giving them no choice so they cannot be morally held accountable even though the book calls them evil and gives them an int score.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Voadam, post: 9225507, member: 2209"] 5e does not have fully mindless creatures, most automaton-like things have at least a 1 int and charisma. Skeletons are explicitly not mindless. "Although they lack the intellect they possessed in life, skeletons aren't mindless." "When skeletons encounter living creatures, the necromantic energy that drives them compels them to kill unless they are commanded by their masters to refrain from doing so. They attack without mercy and fight until destroyed, for skeletons possess little sense of self and even less sense of self-preservation." Zombies in the MM are the closest, they are narratively described as mindless soldiers but that section also says "A zombie can follow simple orders and distinguish friends from foes, but its ability to reason is limited to shambling in whatever direction it is pointed, pummeling any enemy in its path." There is also the description "A zombie retains no vestiges of its former self, its mind devoid of thought and imagination. A zombie left without orders simply stands in place and rots unless something comes along that it can kill. The magic animating a zombie imbues it with evil, so left without purpose, it attacks any living creature it encounters." For many casual conceptions of evil attacking living things just because would be considered enough to consider them evil and call them evil. For some it is not evil because they have no choice to do otherwise, it is the dark magic driving them and giving them no choice so they cannot be morally held accountable even though the book calls them evil and gives them an int score. [/QUOTE]

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