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<blockquote data-quote="Old Fezziwig" data-source="post: 957385" data-attributes="member: 59">Hi, Coik.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp; This is a fair point, but a fireball, in and of itself, although not natural, doesn't violate the natural order.&nbsp; I'll hold by what I said here.&nbsp; I mean, a fireball may not be natural, but it could be in the right circumstances (powderkegs could create a roughly similar effect, if lit); an animated corpse is wholly unnatural—aside from fuddling around with the dead and casting spells on other people's corpses, you really aren't going to get zombies.&nbsp; There's just no way.&nbsp; My opinion, of course.Yeah, fair enough.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp; I think I'd still draw the line with animating their corpses.&nbsp; There's enough wiggle room with the B&amp;E, murder, and theft to at least claim that the actions may not be evil, but messing around with the dead is pretty vile any way you cut it.&nbsp; At least given D&amp;D's default assumptions.&nbsp; Naturally folks can alter their campaign worlds any way they want.Best,tKL</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Old Fezziwig, post: 957385, member: 59"] Hi, Coik. :) This is a fair point, but a fireball, in and of itself, although not natural, doesn't violate the natural order. I'll hold by what I said here. I mean, a fireball may not be natural, but it could be in the right circumstances (powderkegs could create a roughly similar effect, if lit); an animated corpse is wholly unnatural—aside from fuddling around with the dead and casting spells on other people's corpses, you really aren't going to get zombies. There's just no way. My opinion, of course. Yeah, fair enough. :) I think I'd still draw the line with animating their corpses. There's enough wiggle room with the B&E, murder, and theft to at least claim that the actions may not be evil, but messing around with the dead is pretty vile any way you cut it. At least given D&D's default assumptions. Naturally folks can alter their campaign worlds any way they want. Best, tKL [/QUOTE]

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