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<blockquote data-quote="Noumenon" data-source="post: 4463896" data-attributes="member: 70102"><p>It seems like the <em>charm person</em> most people play with is more like <em>antagonize person</em>. Either the person hates you when they make their save, or once the duration expires and they feel controlled, or once their friends realize you enchanted them. Use <em>charm person</em> to get a date, and many people will accuse you of mind rape.</p><p></p><p>I would totally agree with all these consequences for using a spell called <em>dominate person</em> on someone. But this spell is called <em>charm person</em>, and it needs to do what it says on the tin. That means making a friend, not losing one. If working through all the consequences makes the spell work backwards, then maybe you shouldn't work through all of them.</p><p></p><p>For example, maybe a real-life <em>fireball</em> would make a firecracker sound that would alert everything for miles around. Maybe it would make the smell of singed eyebrow hair stick to your clothes so that everybody thought you reeked. Those are plausible consequences, but working them out would make fireball a pain in the ass, rather than a joy to use.</p><p></p><p>Basically, I want a <em>charm person</em> that simulates charm, not mind control. Buying you a beer, not a roofie in your drink. After someone gets done turning on the charm in real life, you might feel slightly used, but you might feel kind of flattered that they gave you all that attention. You might even be friendlier afterwards.</p><p></p><p>I want a <em>charm person</em> you could use to cheer up an angry baby. And I don't see in the spell description why you shouldn't. Do I have to make it a house rule?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Noumenon, post: 4463896, member: 70102"] It seems like the [i]charm person[/i] most people play with is more like [i]antagonize person[/i]. Either the person hates you when they make their save, or once the duration expires and they feel controlled, or once their friends realize you enchanted them. Use [i]charm person[/i] to get a date, and many people will accuse you of mind rape. I would totally agree with all these consequences for using a spell called [i]dominate person[/i] on someone. But this spell is called [i]charm person[/i], and it needs to do what it says on the tin. That means making a friend, not losing one. If working through all the consequences makes the spell work backwards, then maybe you shouldn't work through all of them. For example, maybe a real-life [i]fireball[/i] would make a firecracker sound that would alert everything for miles around. Maybe it would make the smell of singed eyebrow hair stick to your clothes so that everybody thought you reeked. Those are plausible consequences, but working them out would make fireball a pain in the ass, rather than a joy to use. Basically, I want a [i]charm person[/i] that simulates charm, not mind control. Buying you a beer, not a roofie in your drink. After someone gets done turning on the charm in real life, you might feel slightly used, but you might feel kind of flattered that they gave you all that attention. You might even be friendlier afterwards. I want a [i]charm person[/i] you could use to cheer up an angry baby. And I don't see in the spell description why you shouldn't. Do I have to make it a house rule? [/QUOTE]
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