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Message: <blockquote data-quote="(Psi)SeveredHead" data-source="post: 4464375" data-attributes="member: 1165">I'm going to have to disagree with that.You can actively dislike someone who is charismatic. Maybe you dislike their political positions. Maybe you just don't want to listen to what they say. Maybe you know that they're actually a horrible person, but since no one can prove they were behind all those murders but you know they were... Charm is more powerful than just having a high Charisma.Top give an example, Xykon (the lich) is quite charismatic. (He's the leader of a fairly large evil horde, after all.) Roy has reasons to hate him.If Xykon successfully charms Roy, then Xykon is Roy's best friend for 1 hour/level (barring some kind of countering magic). There is no charismatic person in the world who could do that sort of thing. A charismatic person can only indirectly influence someone's emotions, unlike a spell.(It's so hard to give good examples, as we're not allowed to talk about politics.)</blockquote>