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<blockquote data-quote="Kzach" data-source="post: 5647557" data-attributes="member: 56189">Why isn't the onus on other people to bring more optimised characters instead? I find it far more annoying to struggle through skill challenges 'cause the guy with the high Charisma and low Strength chose all Strength-based skills. I find it frustrating when combats run overly long because one dude can't hit the side of a barn and so whether striker, defender, leader or controller, isn't fulfilling his role in the party.Isn't it equally as selfish to not bother to create a decently made character? Why should I carry their weight?I got the Stormwind Fallacy name from the Stormwind Fallacy thread on the CharOp forum on the WotC boards: <a href="http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/26203097/The_Stormwind_Fallacy_%28repost%29" target="_blank">Whoops! Browser Settings Incompatible</a>But I get enjoyment out of making a character that can do cool stuff in the game. And when I do that cool stuff, this is somehow ruining other people's fun? How about they pick up THEIR game? I'm more than happy to offer advice or help in building characters. If they're not enjoying the game because their character sucks and fails at everything that I succeed it, how is that my fault?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kzach, post: 5647557, member: 56189"] Why isn't the onus on other people to bring more optimised characters instead? I find it far more annoying to struggle through skill challenges 'cause the guy with the high Charisma and low Strength chose all Strength-based skills. I find it frustrating when combats run overly long because one dude can't hit the side of a barn and so whether striker, defender, leader or controller, isn't fulfilling his role in the party. Isn't it equally as selfish to not bother to create a decently made character? Why should I carry their weight? I got the Stormwind Fallacy name from the Stormwind Fallacy thread on the CharOp forum on the WotC boards: [url=http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/26203097/The_Stormwind_Fallacy_%28repost%29]Whoops! Browser Settings Incompatible[/url] But I get enjoyment out of making a character that can do cool stuff in the game. And when I do that cool stuff, this is somehow ruining other people's fun? How about they pick up THEIR game? I'm more than happy to offer advice or help in building characters. If they're not enjoying the game because their character sucks and fails at everything that I succeed it, how is that my fault? [/QUOTE]

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