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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 5648062" data-attributes="member: 7006">I think this right here gets to the very heart of the problem.The fact is... many people just aren't &quot;logical&quot;.&nbsp; And no amount of explanation on the part of the &quot;logical&quot; person will make the &quot;non-logical&quot; person see or feel things differently.So while it seems like such a &quot;well, DUH!&quot; concept to you that game about imagination should ask its players to use their imagination to create characters and a game that requires an investment of time to actually play should ipso facto also require some time to prepare to play... many people just don't accede to those ideas.&nbsp; Regardless of how &quot;obvious&quot; it seems.So Kzach... what you're stuck with is playing with a group that is not thinking or experiencing the game the same way you are, and who seem as though will NEVER think or experience it that way, despite how many attempts you might make to &quot;up their game&quot;.&nbsp; Because so-called &quot;logical&quot; thinking is just not as universal as you might think or hope.&nbsp; There's a reason why us human beings aren't ALL scientists, you know.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 5648062, member: 7006"] I think this right here gets to the very heart of the problem. The fact is... many people just [I]aren't[/I] "logical". And no amount of explanation on the part of the "logical" person will make the "non-logical" person see or feel things differently. So while it seems like such a "well, DUH!" concept to you that game about imagination should ask its players to use their imagination to create characters and a game that requires an investment of time to actually play should ipso facto also require some time to [I]prepare[/I] to play... many people just don't accede to those ideas. Regardless of how "obvious" it seems. So Kzach... what you're stuck with is playing with a group that is not thinking or experiencing the game the same way you are, and who seem as though will NEVER think or experience it that way, despite how many attempts you might make to "up their game". Because so-called "logical" thinking is just not as universal as you might think or hope. There's a reason why us human beings aren't ALL scientists, you know. ;) [/QUOTE]

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