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<blockquote data-quote="Greg K" data-source="post: 5648167" data-attributes="member: 5038">I try to define the terms when I use them, because different terminologies get used by region or groups.&nbsp;&nbsp; Here is how they are used by myself and the people that I know:Powergaming:&nbsp; Playing with an emphasis on power and/or the accumulation/ attaining of power (however, power may be defined in the game).&nbsp; So in the former case, it can be characters must have a minimum x ability bonus, a minimum total of abillity bonuses, or some specific threshold of minimum competency or they suck are incompetent. Good examples would be a. Hero means being the starting equivalent of special ops or it could be the level of demigodsb. It could be characters must have an 18 in their primary stat, because of the bonus or not having all ability scores above&nbsp; some minimum score and so the character sucksc. playing for the leveling and bonus increases, etc. that accompany it.And to note, power gaming is not all or nothing, there are degrees.Since it is how much emphasis is placed on power or its accumulation, it is not necessary to know how to optimize to get it.Optimizing: It is the conscious assignment of points, ability scores to, mechanically, meet a concept or build. How much time one spends or how far one takes it are just different degrees on an axis.&nbsp; It is a tool used by many powergamers and min-maxers to meet their goals, but that is just how the tool is utilized by them.So unless people are creating characters entirely randomly or putting no concious thought about the assignment of ability scores, points or mechanical benefits, they are engaging in some level of optimization.Min-maxing: An extreme form of optimizing that tries to maximize benefits and minimize areas of weakness.&nbsp; For example, treating ability scores as dump states or ignoring skills, because the player either thinks the DM will not place emphasis on them or they will rarely come up and using that to strengthen other areas that they consider important.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Greg K, post: 5648167, member: 5038"] I try to define the terms when I use them, because different terminologies get used by region or groups. Here is how they are used by myself and the people that I know: Powergaming: Playing with an emphasis on power and/or the accumulation/ attaining of power (however, power may be defined in the game). So in the former case, it can be characters must have a minimum x ability bonus, a minimum total of abillity bonuses, or some specific threshold of minimum competency or they suck are incompetent. Good examples would be a. Hero means being the starting equivalent of special ops or it could be the level of demigods b. It could be characters must have an 18 in their primary stat, because of the bonus or not having all ability scores above some minimum score and so the character sucks c. playing for the leveling and bonus increases, etc. that accompany it. And to note, power gaming is not all or nothing, there are degrees. Since it is how much emphasis is placed on power or its accumulation, it is not necessary to know how to optimize to get it. Optimizing: It is the conscious assignment of points, ability scores to, mechanically, meet a concept or build. How much time one spends or how far one takes it are just different degrees on an axis. It is a tool used by many powergamers and min-maxers to meet their goals, but that is just how the tool is utilized by them. So unless people are creating characters entirely randomly or putting no concious thought about the assignment of ability scores, points or mechanical benefits, they are engaging in some level of optimization. Min-maxing: An extreme form of optimizing that tries to maximize benefits and minimize areas of weakness. For example, treating ability scores as dump states or ignoring skills, because the player either thinks the DM will not place emphasis on them or they will rarely come up and using that to strengthen other areas that they consider important. [/QUOTE]

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