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<blockquote data-quote="(Psi)SeveredHead" data-source="post: 5648179" data-attributes="member: 1165">Probably taking this thread a bit off-topic, but I had a similar issue in a game once.The DM wanted to try Book of Nine Swords, but because of the level the DM was starting with, I wanted to try playing a thri-kreen PC. (ECL +4, you can't play at 1st-level for obvious reasons. I've never played one in 3.x before and had no idea if it was OP, UP or whatever.) And I knew this was basically my last chance at playing one, as no other campaign would have allowed them.One of the &quot;schools&quot; in Bo9S has a power that gives you either a bonus to hit or to damage (I think the latter) based on your Jump result. Thri-kreen get a +30 bonus to Jump. When told about this power, I sad NO as that would be a blatantly broken combo, and clearly the writer of Bo9S intended the book to be used for regular characters, not a fringe niche race. You wouldn't believe the number of players who wanted me to try that combo. I still said no.The campaign only lasted one session; while mechanical reasons played a role (one PC refusing to use heal, even though it was only a swift action for his Bo9S build) the main reason was the three players all being monsters.The good news: In another campaign, I got to play a warlord-like character using Bo9S and it worked great. The bad news, I literally never got to play a thri-kreen again.If a fellow player made a character like that, not only would I not try to match their optimization, I'd tell the DM what a problem that is too.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="(Psi)SeveredHead, post: 5648179, member: 1165"] Probably taking this thread a bit off-topic, but I had a similar issue in a game once. The DM wanted to try Book of Nine Swords, but because of the level the DM was starting with, I wanted to try playing a thri-kreen PC. (ECL +4, you can't play at 1st-level for obvious reasons. I've never played one in 3.x before and had no idea if it was OP, UP or whatever.) And I knew this was basically my last chance at playing one, as no other campaign would have allowed them. One of the "schools" in Bo9S has a power that gives you either a bonus to hit or to damage (I think the latter) based on your Jump result. Thri-kreen get a +30 bonus to Jump. When told about this power, I sad [b]NO[/b] as that would be a [b]blatantly[/b] broken combo, and clearly the writer of Bo9S intended the book to be used for regular characters, not a fringe niche race. You wouldn't believe the number of players who wanted me to try that combo. I still said no. The campaign only lasted one session; while mechanical reasons played a role (one PC refusing to use heal, even though it was only a swift action for his Bo9S build) the main reason was the three players all being monsters. The good news: In another campaign, I got to play a warlord-like character using Bo9S and it worked great. The bad news, I literally never got to play a thri-kreen again. If a fellow player made a character like that, not only would I not try to match their optimization, I'd tell the DM what a problem that is too. [/QUOTE]

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