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<blockquote data-quote="(Psi)SeveredHead" data-source="post: 5648675" data-attributes="member: 1165">I mean I doubt anyone playtested a thief with both that theme and the weapon, as they come from different products.If it's broken, why use it? You admitted it yourself, so why take something you yourself feel is broken?You figured the math, and you had to know that's a lot of damage. Simply picking something that suits your character isn't broken, but picking several powers/items from different sources that let you break the action economy (with a broken item) is.Haven't I repeatedly said I hate the Character Builder? Maybe for my next campaign I'll ban it, or say PH1 or Essentials book 1 only.I wish I could remember a thread I participated in a year or some ago about why DMs ban non-core products. The CB only exacerbates the problem.Like I said before, I'm not talking about RP at all. That's another issue. It seems to me the CB makes it too easy to power-game though. That kind of thing used to take hours and hours of crawling through multiple products, and (hopefully) asking the DM about each of them, then (hopefully) being flexible about taking stuff away if the DM changes his mind after seeing the combo in play.This is on top of having other players who won't even do &quot;standard&quot; optimization. I wonder if that group that contributed to all those Sultans of Smack thread is still around, and if they do 4e?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="(Psi)SeveredHead, post: 5648675, member: 1165"] I mean I doubt anyone playtested a thief with both that theme [i]and[/i] the weapon, as they come from different products. If it's broken, why use it? You admitted it yourself, so why take something you yourself feel is broken? You figured the math, and you had to know that's a lot of damage. Simply picking something that suits your character isn't broken, but picking several powers/items from different sources that let you break the action economy (with a broken item) is. Haven't I repeatedly said I hate the Character Builder? Maybe for my next campaign I'll ban it, or say PH1 or Essentials book 1 only. I wish I could remember a thread I participated in a year or some ago about why DMs ban non-core products. The CB only exacerbates the problem. Like I said before, I'm not talking about RP at all. That's another issue. It seems to me the CB makes it too easy to power-game though. That kind of thing used to take hours and hours of crawling through multiple products, and (hopefully) asking the DM about each of them, then (hopefully) being flexible about taking stuff away if the DM changes his mind after seeing the combo in play. This is on top of having other players who won't even do "standard" optimization. I wonder if that group that contributed to all those Sultans of Smack thread is still around, and if they do 4e? [/QUOTE]

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