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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Janx" data-source="post: 5650649" data-attributes="member: 8835">I think that's awhol nother avenue of problem, not what the orignal writer was talking about.If PCs could truly do everything, they'd never talk to blacksmiths to make something for them, sages to google up answers from the gods, or other subject matter experts.  that is basically what the initial concern was.However, I doubt a PC made by Kzach is going to have ranks in every skill to cause this sort of problem.  Odds are good his PC is good at killing, and good at whatever his highest stat favors for skills.  So there's a buttload of things he still needs from others.As such, i think that concern is a non-issue.I think the matter is really simple.  When in Rome, do as the Romans do.If Kzach shows up to the table, and all the other PCs suck, he should not build a PC that super-outshines them.As from some other post in here I pointed out there is a minimum baseline of making a decent PC (focusing on skills that use your best attributes), as kzach indicated they don't even do that.  but making build plans out, and that kind of behavior, don't do it.If the party all has the similar power-level, odds are good the DM scales combat to support that.  So a party of sucky PCs does not suck.  They only suck when 1 player shows up with SuperMan.As to why the rest of the group might object?  Because they don't play that way.  True Story: Its like playing basketball during lunch with your friends, and then having guys from the basketball team show up wanting to join.  Without the jocks, you all had fun.  because nobody was better at blocking than anybody was at shooting, baskets were made by just about everybody in equal measure.  The moment jocks show up, even if you split them across the 2 teams, suddenly, they are the ones making ALL the shots, and blocking YOUR shots.Now the jocks just wanted to play ball. And you could argue that we should have improved our game.  But to Jocks, basketball was something they dedicated time to improve their game on.  Everybody was having fun until that point.  Because nobody WANTED to devote that kind of effort to it, but still wanted to spend some time together doing something.I've seen the same thing in Halo when doing Live Parties.  i get all my friends into a 8 man party, and we have a great time doing 4v4 team games.  We take it to the wide internet, and we get scrambled up with strangers, and most of the strangers are kids who focussed on getting good at Halo.  The result, we sucked, and we did not have fun.So a mismath in skill/power-level often reduces the fun.   So knock it off.</blockquote>

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