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<blockquote data-quote="JamesonCourage" data-source="post: 5655162" data-attributes="member: 6668292"><p>Vyvyan, thanks for the civil response. Know that I reply to this with nothing but goodwill in mind.</p><p></p><p>Again, plot:</p><p></p><p>The problem with this is that plot assumes a "main story in a narrative" which setting does not assume. Thus, the different connotation plot carries with it.</p><p></p><p>This definition has the condition of a secret plan. The big part here is having a plan at all. With setting, there is no base assumption of a plan. Thus, the different connotation plot carries with it.</p><p></p><p>This definition mentions arranging the action and incidents ("I began plotting novels at about the time I learned to read"). This carries the connotation not just of framing conditions, but also of resolving them through action. Thus, the different connotation plot carries with it.</p><p></p><p>This first half of the definition only helps if we used other definitions of plot (which carry the connotations mentioned above). The second is fairly acceptable on its own, but since it is coupled with the first half (which relies on other definitions of plot to define itself), the connotations remain the same. Thus, the different connotation plot carries with it.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Based on the above, I disagree with your definitions, but I think we agree on the sentiment (which is the real meat of the discussion). To me, plot carries the connotation of "main story in a narrative" that setting does not, and that makes it less appropriate in my mind to explain the style of play I'm commenting on.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yep, I think we actually agree in sentiment, if not our definitions. And, like most people I find myself disagreeing with, I could probably play at your table without any huge problems. As always play what you like <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JamesonCourage, post: 5655162, member: 6668292"] Vyvyan, thanks for the civil response. Know that I reply to this with nothing but goodwill in mind. Again, plot: The problem with this is that plot assumes a "main story in a narrative" which setting does not assume. Thus, the different connotation plot carries with it. This definition has the condition of a secret plan. The big part here is having a plan at all. With setting, there is no base assumption of a plan. Thus, the different connotation plot carries with it. This definition mentions arranging the action and incidents ("I began plotting novels at about the time I learned to read"). This carries the connotation not just of framing conditions, but also of resolving them through action. Thus, the different connotation plot carries with it. This first half of the definition only helps if we used other definitions of plot (which carry the connotations mentioned above). The second is fairly acceptable on its own, but since it is coupled with the first half (which relies on other definitions of plot to define itself), the connotations remain the same. Thus, the different connotation plot carries with it. Based on the above, I disagree with your definitions, but I think we agree on the sentiment (which is the real meat of the discussion). To me, plot carries the connotation of "main story in a narrative" that setting does not, and that makes it less appropriate in my mind to explain the style of play I'm commenting on. Yep, I think we actually agree in sentiment, if not our definitions. And, like most people I find myself disagreeing with, I could probably play at your table without any huge problems. As always play what you like :) [/QUOTE]
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