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<blockquote data-quote="JamesonCourage" data-source="post: 5655380" data-attributes="member: 6668292"><p>Yes, I really don't want you misrepresenting my view.</p><p></p><p></p><p>You not seeing the difference still doesn't make it okay in my mind for you to tell me what I mean. Because, it's not what I mean. Don't tell me to "step up" and say something the way you think is right, simply because you don't see the difference. The difference is clear to me.</p><p></p><p></p><p>First, I strongly disagree with you cutting off the actual definition in this discussion. It can mean location, but it can include other aspects, as well. I even linked the definition to clear that up.</p><p></p><p>You can see in the first definition, it's includes "scene", as well as "the surroundings in which something is set". This does not stop at location, according to the definition. The setting might be, "a train station, with 4 thugs surrounding a frightened couple. The thugs are brandishing weapons, and are looking to get into a fight." </p><p></p><p>This definition clearly supports the same. In creating the location, you also give scenery (trash cans, litter, etc.), properties (oddities, etc.), and background (thugs surrounding the couple, king of the country mobilizing troops, etc.).</p><p></p><p>Both definitions include framing a scene, which extends to "framing of situations" such as the thugs and the couple at the train station. The fact that you disagree does in no way give you the right to tell me what I mean. Please don't do that.</p><p></p><p>The connotation of the word "setting" and that of the word "plot" is clear to me. The former involves framing a scene, while the latter involves guiding it along a narrative path. You don't have to agree. Don't say what I mean.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, you may not be able to see why I disagree. That's fine. Again, please don't tell me what I think, or tell me to "step up" and phrase something the way you want me to because you don't see it, or don't agree with it.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Basically true, yep. Framing the scene (and the situation the couple finds themselves in), as it were.</p><p></p><p></p><p>This really depends on its implementation. Added for "story element" as compared to, say, random chance. One is framing a scene (setting), while the other is progressing a story (plot).</p><p></p><p>As always, play what you like <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JamesonCourage, post: 5655380, member: 6668292"] Yes, I really don't want you misrepresenting my view. You not seeing the difference still doesn't make it okay in my mind for you to tell me what I mean. Because, it's not what I mean. Don't tell me to "step up" and say something the way you think is right, simply because you don't see the difference. The difference is clear to me. First, I strongly disagree with you cutting off the actual definition in this discussion. It can mean location, but it can include other aspects, as well. I even linked the definition to clear that up. You can see in the first definition, it's includes "scene", as well as "the surroundings in which something is set". This does not stop at location, according to the definition. The setting might be, "a train station, with 4 thugs surrounding a frightened couple. The thugs are brandishing weapons, and are looking to get into a fight." This definition clearly supports the same. In creating the location, you also give scenery (trash cans, litter, etc.), properties (oddities, etc.), and background (thugs surrounding the couple, king of the country mobilizing troops, etc.). Both definitions include framing a scene, which extends to "framing of situations" such as the thugs and the couple at the train station. The fact that you disagree does in no way give you the right to tell me what I mean. Please don't do that. The connotation of the word "setting" and that of the word "plot" is clear to me. The former involves framing a scene, while the latter involves guiding it along a narrative path. You don't have to agree. Don't say what I mean. Again, you may not be able to see why I disagree. That's fine. Again, please don't tell me what I think, or tell me to "step up" and phrase something the way you want me to because you don't see it, or don't agree with it. Basically true, yep. Framing the scene (and the situation the couple finds themselves in), as it were. This really depends on its implementation. Added for "story element" as compared to, say, random chance. One is framing a scene (setting), while the other is progressing a story (plot). As always, play what you like :) [/QUOTE]
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