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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Eric Tolle" data-source="post: 5659868" data-attributes="member: 53859"><p>It really depends on the edition. In Third Edition, which is the true optimizer's playground, dwarves were the second best choice as wizards; bonus to one of the most important stats? Minus to a dump stat? Darkvision? Yes please! Elves on t the other hand, for all that they had a reputation for magical ability made lousy mages, due to the Con hit. The best race old cleese for casters was gnomes, due to the con bonus and small size. And since nobody who was properly optimized would play a non-spellcaster, you would in effect get parties consisting of three gnomes and a dwarven cleric. After the third or fourth identical party, it gets kind of old.</p></blockquote><p></p>