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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Firstborn" data-source="post: 596758" data-attributes="member: 9767">Quote:To me, it's a natural assumption that I will wake an Orc, question it under duress, and then kill it unless I see it as a means to making peace with the larger community and getting what I desire out of Elven Port without needing hostilities.I'm operating largely under that 'semi-special forces' mode of thought for my PC.Why are you operating in this mode?  Is your character someone who was trained to operate this way?  Was/Is your character affiliated with a special ops unit of some nation?  I don't understand why you would want to have a character function in this way in a fantasy setting.I also don't get power gamers and I am not saying you are one I am merely making a D&D observation.  Everyone seems to be focused on being the toughest, baddest, munchkin around and it mostly makes for a boring game.I wish D&D players who read the LOTR Trilogy and have seen the movies would take more away from the books and movies than just 'Wow that was cool, did you see how they killed all those orcs real fast.  I want a PC like that.'  I read Robin Hood stories, Morte de Artur, LOTR, and a lot more fantasy books before I was 14 (1981) and then discovered D&D and have always aspired to make my characters Heroic not just in action but in thier beliefs.  I am now 36 and have seen all manner of gamers.  I have had to place my character in harms way in order to gain humane treatment for prisoners.  Now when we play in group with other people the party looks to me to stop any atrocities the party might want to engage in.  Why do I have to be the moral compass for other players?My older brother, who is a power gamer / internet fantasy world gamer, once had a character kill a dungeon guard, then had him amputate the dead guards leg at the hip, and de-fleshed the guards thigh bone so that he could use it as a club in order to escape.  Did I mention his character was a Ranger back in 1st edition days.Another thing that I think is missing is truly Heroic action.  What ever happened to playing a truly heroic character for the simple reward the peasant communities can afford to give.  Gratitude.  Question’s to ask about the party before deciding how killing prisoners really affects them.Are they really Heroes in the true sense of what a Hero is or are they really just paid Mercenaries claiming that they are Heroes?Example:The PC’s come into town.  While they are there the town is attacked by Orcs, Hobgoblins, or some other force.Heroic action taken by PC’s:Jump into the fracas and drive the attacking force off or kill them all.Townsfolk reaction:Hail the PC’s as Heroes and insist on paying for room and board, plus armor and equipment repair.PC observation:Town is in need of a protection and/or need someone to locate marauders hideout and remove the threat.Heroic response by PC’s:Hey we’ll help you poor folks out for free because we believe that you deserve justice and freedom.Or Mercenary response by the PC’s:Hey we’ll help you poor folks out for the right price, and some free horses (not cheap) because Heroes (yeah right!) like us don't come cheap.So are the PC’s really Heroes or just a bunch of Opportunist?.What ever happened to:With great power comes great responsibility.</blockquote>

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