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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Aus_Snow" data-source="post: 3753998" data-attributes="member: 29112">No, I asked (someone else) specifically for evidence of the "masses" of people professing such objections. It seemed to me, from your last post, that you (who decided to attempt to provide evidence on behalf of another) could not provide this.This is not something you mentioned (that you were "sifting through several thousand pages of posts") before - presumably, you mean "thousands of completely relevant posts". . .? You presented it as evidence, I assumed it was such - as in, without any reason to assume that you were picking from among so *many* possible posts. Now I know that, I'll have to do some searching myself, just to try and gauge what these numbers are like, as best I am able.Fair enough. What suits one might not suit another. I get that.Not really. It exists because someone made it. And someone made it because. . . well, there is an infinite variety of reasons why someone might choose to do that. Or just astoundingly many reasons, perhaps. Either way.Well, why wouldn't an RPG writer put whatever it is they're presenting in a positive light? I've seen writers do that, from just about any game company, for just about any book. It doesn't always mean a great deal. OK, it might. But yeah, it equally might not.Oh, quite true. It's amazing how often regular web-visitors (and forum-posters) ask for some d20 answers, and I (or someone else) points them to that very site, which they have - clearly - never heard of. And that is among those who bother to spend their time on online forums and so on.Your prescience was foreseen. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool    :cool:"  data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" />Well, that's true. Thanks for providing those links, either way.Not all people play the game the same way. Simple as that.I haven't seen (or encouraged/discouraged) those things - well, apart from the odd attrition encounter, actually - in games I've run, featuring at least some Vancian spellcasting. And as a player, it ain't that way, either. Not IME.I would be ah. . . very surprised, to say the least, if someone could "prove" that Vancian magic *does* cause those things. Because my experiences IRL directly contradict that claim. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />OTOH, if some proportion of players and/or DMs has experienced gameplay in line with your theory, whatever that might be, that's cool: styles of play differ. Perhaps for them, a solution to their problem might be in order. That would make perfect sense to me.</blockquote>

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