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Message: <blockquote data-quote="gizmo33" data-source="post: 3759392" data-attributes="member: 30001">If this were Wyatt's design goal then that would be fine but it's not AFAICT.  The current resource model is not inextricably linked to Vancian magic.  The "9:00-9:15" problem could just as easily occur within a spell point system.Furthermore, other than in super-hero type stories the workings of magic are left relatively vague.  RPGs have to stand a level of logical scrutiny that novels don't because the players can actually play around with the elements of the world - and find loop holes, problem areas, and make the world seem like an odd fit for the rules.  The problems with trying to fit a novel to a game were already noted in the old days, I'll try not to restate those arguments anymore than I already have.Just look at what happened in combat in 3E.  People probably wanted a level of tactical detail that wasn't present in the "minute long melee round" of 2E and prior.  Be careful what you wish for I guess is the lesson.  Now it's pretty common to hear people complain about how long combat takes.  Now it's pretty common to hear people complain about how long it takes to stat up characters and monsters (just look at one of the last Dungeon editorials for an example of this complaint from a professional).Some of the problems that you seem to have with Vancian magic could be solved within a system that's still basically Vancian, or other systems that still don't use a "per-encounter" resource model.  You appear to be asking for far more than what you need to solve the problems described.</blockquote>

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