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<blockquote data-quote="gizmo33" data-source="post: 3771700" data-attributes="member: 30001"><p>I don't understand what you're saying here. "4-encounters-per-day" is an oversimplification - and a misleading one I think in this context. There's no real limit to the number of encounters a party can face in DnD. The limit is the resources they have to devote to the encounter. A more complete statement of the above is "an average of 4 encounters per day where those encounters are of an EL equal to APL". When it really comes down to is that PCs have a limited amount of energy in that paradigm. </p><p></p><p>In any case, it's not even a strict limit of 4 when you confine it to only encounters of the specified EL. So AFAICT you're not objecting to a strict limit, you're objecting to the fact that there is an average result that stems from PCs having a limited amount of resources.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>By *fight* I was thinking actual fighting. Standing around in an army of 10,000 watching other people fight isn't what I thought you meant - mainly because it doesn't really deal with any issues of resource usage. Gimli and Legolas had some sort of contest about how many orcs they could kill. Did they get into the 20's? That would be about 3 orcs per hour based on what you're saying here - which is pretty casual by DnD standards. </p><p></p><p>Also, I don't know what Gimli or Legolas' levels are, but the relative weakness of orcs compared to them makes it very likely that 20-some orcs are well within their APL. The joking attitude that the "contest" between the elf and dwarf expresses would be indicative of a series of encounters far below the APL of the pair. (edit: granted, this is all based on my opinion of the closest correlation between what the book describes and what the equivalent experience would be in DnD)</p><p></p><p>I don't really recall the details of these two battles well enough - maybe they are better examples than I realize, but the above is my first impression based on my hazy recollection of the details.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gizmo33, post: 3771700, member: 30001"] I don't understand what you're saying here. "4-encounters-per-day" is an oversimplification - and a misleading one I think in this context. There's no real limit to the number of encounters a party can face in DnD. The limit is the resources they have to devote to the encounter. A more complete statement of the above is "an average of 4 encounters per day where those encounters are of an EL equal to APL". When it really comes down to is that PCs have a limited amount of energy in that paradigm. In any case, it's not even a strict limit of 4 when you confine it to only encounters of the specified EL. So AFAICT you're not objecting to a strict limit, you're objecting to the fact that there is an average result that stems from PCs having a limited amount of resources. By *fight* I was thinking actual fighting. Standing around in an army of 10,000 watching other people fight isn't what I thought you meant - mainly because it doesn't really deal with any issues of resource usage. Gimli and Legolas had some sort of contest about how many orcs they could kill. Did they get into the 20's? That would be about 3 orcs per hour based on what you're saying here - which is pretty casual by DnD standards. Also, I don't know what Gimli or Legolas' levels are, but the relative weakness of orcs compared to them makes it very likely that 20-some orcs are well within their APL. The joking attitude that the "contest" between the elf and dwarf expresses would be indicative of a series of encounters far below the APL of the pair. (edit: granted, this is all based on my opinion of the closest correlation between what the book describes and what the equivalent experience would be in DnD) I don't really recall the details of these two battles well enough - maybe they are better examples than I realize, but the above is my first impression based on my hazy recollection of the details. [/QUOTE]
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