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Message: <blockquote data-quote="gizmo33" data-source="post: 3773840" data-attributes="member: 30001">How nitpicky are you guys going to get and what exactly is the difference between what "counts" and what "doesn't"?  If this thread is about you all discovering something or making some interesting point, that's cool, but if if this is some shallow attempt to just be right and continue to change the subject until you are then I don't see the point.  Whatever conclusion you wind up coming to at the end of this will probably be rendered meaningless as a result of all this flailing back and forth.  Maybe put some of this in context and explain why the per-encounter thing is in itself not an approximation.  Do us a favor and find novel that has the hero regain his spells exactly one minute after he stops fighting when it becomes obvious that the example is needed.What's the significant difference between 8 hours and 7.5?  4 hours?  10 hours? Isn't it possible that some of this stuff are just game approximations for the general notion that you have to rest for some time in order to benefit from the effects.  Healing works the same way, it's not like you regain hitpoints continually during the day - the idea that you gain them in a lump some after a fixed amount of time is for convenience and is a close-enough approximation.Remember, the original statement that started all of this was "heroes in novels and movies never rest, they fight all day".  Hong jumps in and tries to defend this statement seemingly by changing the subject where he feels on safer ground.  Whatever point he really wanted to make would have been better served by not pretending it was some other point.  I've tried to help you guys with your argument because I have nothing to gain by not understanding what you're saying, but it's getting to be increasingly a waste of my time because the conversation is not being had in good faith by all persons.  Please try to develop your arguments in ways that someone who doesn't agree with you already can follow them.If there is an elf character somewhere that is like the elves of DnD (it's not Tolkien) but isn't based explicitly or implicitly (I love that - plausible deniability) on DnD?  Aren't there all kinds of elements that are unique to DnD in their particulars.  Is there some point or significance to showing that an element of DnD is not found to exist identically in a novel where it was invented independently?  Again, what is the point?</blockquote>

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