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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 3799041" data-attributes="member: 18280">Either I haven't explained my position well enough, or you haven't read it closely.  I argue that combat is only meaningful when there is context and consequence.The 15-minute adventuring day is obviously not a problem for you, because you only have one combat per day, and like it that way.  You use a mix of per-encounter and per-day abilities, and it hasn't changed this for you.  Wyatt's blog would seem to indicate that using this mix will make you have more encounters per day.  It is this claim which I dispute.I will also agree with you that resource attrition is manipulative.  IMHO, every game has rules that attempt to manipulate its players into approaching the game a certain way.  This is not only an important part of what causes the difference in "feel" between different editions, but it is inescapable.  So long as actions have differing contexts and consequences, players will examine risks & rewards differently, and act accordingly.  Studies have shown this to be true even where the consequences are completely random -- even where no system exists, players still attempt to determine what is happening inside the "system" and use it to their advantage.  The rules of soccer manipulate players into kicking the ball rather than picking it up.  The rules of chess manipulate players into conserving pieces unless they can trade them for advantage.  The rules of Twister provide for a more complex form of manipulation, because "win" conditions might mean more than winning the game (i.e., one might prefer to get entwined with that cute person over there and lose than to not get entwined and win), but there is still manipulation going on.Solving a problem within a game often means (1) determining why the problem exists (i.e., what factors manipulate the players to act in the problematic manner) and then (2) changing those factors and/or adding new factors to alter what the players are being manipulated to do.RC</blockquote>

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