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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 3800595" data-attributes="member: 5143">That's not differing logistics.  It's the same logistics for every player in the game, they are all given the same choices.Sure, but the logistics themselves are the same: Do I have enough of what I need to continue?D&D has a closer analogy to a situation where Armor is concerned about whether they have enough tank shells to keep firing, but they only brought 4 with them.  They'll get a new shipment of 4 tomorrow, but can they hold off the enemy until then?  Best to hide in the tank and do nothing until a big enough threat comes along to waste one of them.  Or, you could exit the tank and try to take out the enemy with a knife.While the infantry are stocked with so much ammo that they could fire their guns continuously for days and not run out.  Plus, they get regularly resupplied so they never worry about running out.One group worries about logistics, the other one doesn't.  That doesn't happen in real life.  Instead, logistics in D&D is used as a balance on power.  Since the tank can easily take out almost any target the infantry can(and with overkill), it wouldn't be very much fun to be the infantry if you could just send in the tank to do everything.  So you put restrictions on the tank in order to make sure they don't do EVERYTHING.I don't count the item crafting in 2nd edition(and 1st was similar) as being item crafting, per se.  There was a large section of the DMG dedicated to explaining how each magic item was supposed to be unique.  In order to craft ANY item at all, you needed strange and rare magical components and that each item should be the result of 2 or 3 adventures worth of gathering components to make one.There weren't any "rules" for it either.  It was more like "Your DM can tell you what you'll have to do to make an item and whether or not you can have it based on how powerful it is."The problem is in the TIME it takes to do those activities and the involvement in them.  As I've pointed out in other threads that in an average session 4 hour session of my home game, 3 hours of it are spent in combat.  In an average 4 hour session of Living Greyhawk or Xen'drik Expeditions, about 3 hours are spent on combat.The remaining hour is spend partially on the party discussing courses of action with each other, partially describing things to the party, partially role playing, and partially solving non-combat encounters.On average, I say our wizard spends...maybe 10 minutes per session on non-combat activities.  The Rogue spends maybe 10.  The bard or diplomat in the party spends maybe 15 talking to people and doing their thing.For the other 3 hours of the session, the other players would like to feel that they have some reason to sitting at the table.  They don't like being told "Well, you knew by not playing a fighter you weren't going to be good at fighting.  So, just sit there and wait for your 10 minutes of shining."</blockquote>

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