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Message: <blockquote data-quote="shilsen" data-source="post: 3811108" data-attributes="member: 198">Cute. I'd personally describe it as not obvious in an "I'm going to repeat the same stuff over and over again, even though a number of people (pemerton and Jackelope King, for example) have pointed out why it is flawed."Really, people disagreeing with your reasoning however many times you repeat yourself doesn't necessarily mean they don't get it. It can also mean that they found the reasoning wrong the first time, so repeating it ad nauseam means they find it wrong every time. Some of the people in my group were discussing the 4e forum a fortnight ago and this thread came up, and someone mentioned that he was fairly convinced that you were intentionally repeating the same argument over and over with just a variation in (and often intentionally obfuscating) language, almost like trolling. I said that I thought you honestly did mean what you were posting, and just didn't get why others might think you were wrong. Similarly, other people may just honestly not get why you think it's a good argument.And seriously, if you're tired of repeating yourself, why keep posting and doing so? I post here once in a while just because I find it a damn amusing thread (and a bit of a train wreck) and it's something to do during a break conferencing with students. What's your motivation?</blockquote>