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<blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 3814121" data-attributes="member: 18280">The mechanics.I believe that Gizmo33 wanted an actual example using that setup that demonstrates how your response might look in practice.&nbsp; Therefore, I don't call this an answer (Shilsen, make of that what you will), but rather another evasion of the question.How so?&nbsp; If it is possible to make a &quot;clear win&quot; encounter one in which there is mechanical interest, then this would make it more clear how such a thing could be done.&nbsp; The more clear the win is, the more clear an example of how it is still mechanically interesting will be.Yet, throughout this discussion, Gizmo33 and I have been clear that we agree with you that a win/lose scenario can be exciting.&nbsp; That tells us nothing about whether or not a situation where you clearly cannot lose can be exciting.Moreover, you have yet to demonstrate that the excitement was mechanical, rather than story-based, because you haven't provided the mechanics of the encounter.You have evaded those questions again, but I will nonetheless be happy to answer yours if you provide the mechanics of the encounter.RC</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Raven Crowking, post: 3814121, member: 18280"] The mechanics. I believe that Gizmo33 wanted an actual example using that setup that demonstrates how your response might look in practice. Therefore, I don't call this an answer (Shilsen, make of that what you will), but rather another evasion of the question. How so? If it is possible to make a "clear win" encounter one in which there is mechanical interest, then this would make it more clear how such a thing could be done. The more clear the win is, the more clear an example of how it is still mechanically interesting will be. Yet, throughout this discussion, Gizmo33 and I have been clear that we agree with you that a win/lose scenario can be exciting. That tells us nothing about whether or not a situation where you [i]clearly cannot lose[/i] can be exciting. Moreover, you have yet to demonstrate that the excitement was mechanical, rather than story-based, because you haven't provided the mechanics of the encounter. You have evaded those questions again, but I will nonetheless be happy to answer yours if you provide the mechanics of the encounter. RC [/QUOTE]

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