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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 3825747" data-attributes="member: 18280">How does this contradict what I said?Or perhaps we simply differ on our concepts of what a "challenge" is. IMHO, there is no such thing as a challenge that precludes the possibility of loss. Within the context of a role-playing game, there are many types of loss possible. Within the context of the mechanics of a role-playing game, there is only loss of resources. (Understand, of course, that I include life, mobility, and so on as "resources" -- a "resource" in this context is anything that you can use to mechanically affect the game.)Again,there is no such thing as a challenge that precludes the possibility of loss.  Within the context of the mechanics of a role-playing game, there is only loss of resources.I.e., within the context of the mechanics of a role-playing game, the only "loss" is loss of resources.  Mechanics might be used to resolve another type of "loss" (relating to story, etc.) but it isn't a mechanical loss.  IOW, "mechanical abilities/qualities = resources", and "loss of mechanical abilities/qualities = loss of resources".Or, perhaps it would have been more clear as there is no such thing as a challenge that precludes the possibility of loss.  Within the context of the mechanics of a role-playing game, mechanical loss is loss of resources.EDIT:  I should probably also mentioned the existence of non-mechanical resources, such as information, because it is germaine to an actual solution to the 15-minute adventuring day problem, if not relevant to the solution Wyatt suggests.Clearer?RC</blockquote>

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