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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Abraxas" data-source="post: 1465598" data-attributes="member: 1266">Coming at this from another direction - sometimes its because the DM's NPCs are complete jerks.  actually we don't kill innocent NPCs, but man sometimes I just wanna ..... The person who normally DMs for me and my friends has developed a bad habit.  In response to 1 or 2 players (who no longer game with us) who did treat all NPCs very badly, he has made NPCs often less than friendly and/or very difficult to deal with.  Now, even though these problem players are gone, he sometimes slips into this mode when our characters are trying to flex their muscles (so to speak) and manipulate an NPC (its gotten better with 3.0/3.5 and the intimidate skill).  In fact it happens even when were not trying to intimidate NPCs. These are NPCs who aren't followers of the BBG - so they don't have something worse than us to fear and this isn't a tactic we use very often - but after you've just let the archer take out the attacking warband of orcs single handedly before they could even get to the gate - you would expect some cooperation. Actually - NPC actions ended two campaigns a while back.  In one, we couldn't get any help from the local authorities after my character and a paladin cohort had been ambushed and killed cause it was a "religious" matter.  After being raised, I told the DM my Cleric of Grumbar was now going to kill every follower of Akadi that he met, because priests of Akadi had killed him, and it was a religious matter (end of campaign one).  In a second, after saving the town, the local merchants were still charging us triple prices for everything and the local constabulary wasn't interested in helping us deal with a group hell bent on killing the 2 mages in the party.  We were ambushed and suffered a near TPK.  The paladin, my cleric, the ranger and the rogue (the cleric, ranger and rogue had to be raised) all decided that the locals had hung us out to dry and us religious types decided that our deity had failed us.  So we said screw the church, screw the town and began plotting the demise of the town sherrif who had been a real prick (end of campaign two).</blockquote>

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