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<blockquote data-quote="DarkMaster" data-source="post: 1972000" data-attributes="member: 16362">IMC jump, balance are very useful because of that reason. I draw everything on the battlemap so often the character will have the choice between spending the round climbing the massive tomb lying on the getting AoO from the opponent below or simply jump on it. Then a balance check DC 5 could be done for each action performed on top of it. IMC during combat jump, balance, climb are used all the time, giving sometimes an edge to barbarian and ranger over straight tank fighter when fighting in difficult env. The dwarf figther 10 in my campaign has almost maxed rank in jump and climb. It's funny to see the metal can climbing rock walls and jumping on table. I think she as something like 12 ranks in climb -6for armor +5 for strength and something similar in jump -6 for speed. +5 in jump usually allows you to hop on table or desk 55% of the time.I think that the problem some of you have with jump you only use it to do exceptional leap as I use it for most mundane jump</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DarkMaster, post: 1972000, member: 16362"] IMC jump, balance are very useful because of that reason. I draw everything on the battlemap so often the character will have the choice between spending the round climbing the massive tomb lying on the getting AoO from the opponent below or simply jump on it. Then a balance check DC 5 could be done for each action performed on top of it. IMC during combat jump, balance, climb are used all the time, giving sometimes an edge to barbarian and ranger over straight tank fighter when fighting in difficult env. The dwarf figther 10 in my campaign has almost maxed rank in jump and climb. It's funny to see the metal can climbing rock walls and jumping on table. I think she as something like 12 ranks in climb -6for armor +5 for strength and something similar in jump -6 for speed. +5 in jump usually allows you to hop on table or desk 55% of the time. I think that the problem some of you have with jump you only use it to do exceptional leap as I use it for most mundane jump [/QUOTE]

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