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<blockquote data-quote="shilsen" data-source="post: 2910419" data-attributes="member: 198">I think we've already established the basic reason why min/maxing is viewed as bad: because it's a particular play style which doesn't suit some people. Almost anything beyond that will be even more subjective.For me personally, I'm fine with a reasonable amount of min/maxing. I define &quot;reasonable&quot; almost purely on the basis of the group. If one PC is min/maxed to a degree that he overshadows the others and/or requires me to use things to challenge him that would destroy the other characters, then it's too much. As my players will probably vouch, I run a very tight ship as far as what's allowed or not (I run a &quot;mostly core rules&quot; game), but I also work with them so that they have powerful, mechanically strong, well-constructed PCs. And we have a roleplaying-heavy, character-driven game where we've never had balance problems in-game. In short, I think min/maxing is just fine, within reason. And I can judge &quot;reason&quot; to a nicety in my game, which is as much as any DM can hope to do, I think.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="shilsen, post: 2910419, member: 198"] I think we've already established the basic reason why min/maxing is viewed as bad: because it's a particular play style which doesn't suit some people. Almost anything beyond that will be even more subjective. For me personally, I'm fine with a reasonable amount of min/maxing. I define "reasonable" almost purely on the basis of the group. If one PC is min/maxed to a degree that he overshadows the others and/or requires me to use things to challenge him that would destroy the other characters, then it's too much. As my players will probably vouch, I run a very tight ship as far as what's allowed or not (I run a "mostly core rules" game), but I also work with them so that they have powerful, mechanically strong, well-constructed PCs. And we have a roleplaying-heavy, character-driven game where we've never had balance problems in-game. In short, I think min/maxing is just fine, within reason. And I can judge "reason" to a nicety in my game, which is as much as any DM can hope to do, I think. [/QUOTE]

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