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<blockquote data-quote="Nac_Mac_Feegle" data-source="post: 2910576" data-attributes="member: 32300">I have a reply I want to post, but it might not be taken well, so I will say this&quot;Its a Roleplaying game&quot;Librarius, your the one telling poeple if you min/max your &quot;rollplaying&quot; not &quot;roleplaying&quot;. This is purely your opinion. If you roll dice at the table, your &quot;rollplaying&quot; and if you play a role from the players handbook, your &quot;roleplaying&quot;They are not seperate entities, only to you, you are touting your style as superior, by making the assumption we are &quot;rollplaying&quot; that min/maxing is &quot;rollplaying&quot;Who defines &quot;rollplaying&quot;? who defines &quot;min/maxing&quot;? who defines &quot;roleplaying&quot;?I have played D&amp;D and other systems since 1983, in every system, its was called a &quot;roleplaying game&quot; and yet every system requires you to &quot;roll&quot; dice. They are one in the same. If you want to play a diceless system, fine, but this is D&amp;D discussion, and D&amp;D is not diceless, to belittle poeple, because they use dice in a dice system is ridiculous.Once you pick a character class, your building your character, your metagaming as you write his feats down.As soon as you decide to favour one stat for the other, for whatever reason, be it roleplaying considerations or combat considerations, your min/maxing.As soon as you enter combat and roll to hit based on your strength and BaB, your rollplaying.It bothers me that 90% of the people in this thread are accepting of everyone elses game style but you. You insist that yours is the only way, and that others are mere &quot;rollplayers&quot;. Have you seen <a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7521044027821122670" target="_blank">fear of girls?</a>. Theres the one true way to play games, and theres us mere hobbyist gamers.Feegle Out <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool&nbsp; &nbsp; :cool:"&nbsp; data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nac_Mac_Feegle, post: 2910576, member: 32300"] I have a reply I want to post, but it might not be taken well, so I will say this "Its a Roleplaying game" Librarius, your the one telling poeple if you min/max your "rollplaying" not "roleplaying". This is purely your opinion. If you roll dice at the table, your "rollplaying" and if you play a role from the players handbook, your "roleplaying" They are not seperate entities, only to you, you are touting your style as superior, by making the assumption we are "rollplaying" that min/maxing is "rollplaying" Who defines "rollplaying"? who defines "min/maxing"? who defines "roleplaying"? I have played D&D and other systems since 1983, in every system, its was called a "roleplaying game" and yet every system requires you to "roll" dice. They are one in the same. If you want to play a diceless system, fine, but this is D&D discussion, and D&D is not diceless, to belittle poeple, because they use dice in a dice system is ridiculous. Once you pick a character class, your building your character, your metagaming as you write his feats down. As soon as you decide to favour one stat for the other, for whatever reason, be it roleplaying considerations or combat considerations, your min/maxing. As soon as you enter combat and roll to hit based on your strength and BaB, your rollplaying. It bothers me that 90% of the people in this thread are accepting of everyone elses game style but you. You insist that yours is the only way, and that others are mere "rollplayers". Have you seen [url=http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7521044027821122670]fear of girls?[/url]. Theres the one true way to play games, and theres us mere hobbyist gamers. Feegle Out :cool: [/QUOTE]

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