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<blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 2911049" data-attributes="member: 710"><p>I wonder if this is your personal experience or just an observation from all the talk on Internet Boards? </p><p>(I have only 3.x experiences, and they were all with the same group. I can say that the situation hasn't changed here, and if I look on how we play our rare Torg, Shadowrun or Warhammer adventures, I think our powergaming style is not limited to 3.x)</p><p></p><p>If it is not from personal game experience, I think the Internet might skew perspectives. </p><p>People with similar interests gather on boards like this one. </p><p></p><p>Rules forum (like one of the probably mostly frequented forums on this board) are all about the rules, and character realisiation or optimisation is a part of that. Rules Forums are probably also very frequented because rules aren't always easy to understand, and you can get somewhat reliable answers from more experienced players on such a forum. </p><p></p><p>I must admit I have never read any of the Story Hours, but I wouldn't be suprised that, if I concentrated my readings on that, I would belive all roleplayers are storytellers and love engaging in long narratives or dialogues, or solving complex riddles. </p><p></p><p>I notice that their also constantly coming up threads on Alignment Issues, which might indicate that a lot of people are not only concered about character optimisation, but also on roleplaying (what does it mean to be a lawful good character? Would a Chaotic Neutral character do this?) I think that might be "thespian" (If I may borrow that word from gizmo33) equivalent of munchkinismn. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>In other words, the Internet (figuratively) gives people a forum where they can discuss their interest. </p><p>Before the Internet was as widespread as it is now, Min/Maxers and thespians were basically isolated from many likeminded. </p><p>But the Internet now gave both sides a room where to gather and chat about their hobby. </p><p>But: A thespian might not be as focussed on a single system as others. He might also care more about forums and sites that concentrate on storytelling aspects like a forum on literature and/or cinema. Min/Maxer has no alternatives, his hobby will always be related to the specifics of a game sytem. So, you naturally see more Min/Maxers on a D&D board than thespians, despite both being as common as ever.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mustrum_Ridcully, post: 2911049, member: 710"] I wonder if this is your personal experience or just an observation from all the talk on Internet Boards? (I have only 3.x experiences, and they were all with the same group. I can say that the situation hasn't changed here, and if I look on how we play our rare Torg, Shadowrun or Warhammer adventures, I think our powergaming style is not limited to 3.x) If it is not from personal game experience, I think the Internet might skew perspectives. People with similar interests gather on boards like this one. Rules forum (like one of the probably mostly frequented forums on this board) are all about the rules, and character realisiation or optimisation is a part of that. Rules Forums are probably also very frequented because rules aren't always easy to understand, and you can get somewhat reliable answers from more experienced players on such a forum. I must admit I have never read any of the Story Hours, but I wouldn't be suprised that, if I concentrated my readings on that, I would belive all roleplayers are storytellers and love engaging in long narratives or dialogues, or solving complex riddles. I notice that their also constantly coming up threads on Alignment Issues, which might indicate that a lot of people are not only concered about character optimisation, but also on roleplaying (what does it mean to be a lawful good character? Would a Chaotic Neutral character do this?) I think that might be "thespian" (If I may borrow that word from gizmo33) equivalent of munchkinismn. :) In other words, the Internet (figuratively) gives people a forum where they can discuss their interest. Before the Internet was as widespread as it is now, Min/Maxers and thespians were basically isolated from many likeminded. But the Internet now gave both sides a room where to gather and chat about their hobby. But: A thespian might not be as focussed on a single system as others. He might also care more about forums and sites that concentrate on storytelling aspects like a forum on literature and/or cinema. Min/Maxer has no alternatives, his hobby will always be related to the specifics of a game sytem. So, you naturally see more Min/Maxers on a D&D board than thespians, despite both being as common as ever. [/QUOTE]
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