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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Greg K" data-source="post: 2911195" data-attributes="member: 5038">As players in different regions and group have differing definitions, there naturally will be some differences.  However, the above are pretty close to the definitions that the people I have played with over the years, but we would add the following to the power gamerPowergamer: as you wrote, but also the power gamer cares not for rp, but for power and loot. Not a bad thing for kick in the door dungeon crawl type games. However n a campaign that includes plenty of role, powergamers become a problem, because when the other players are roleplaying (social interaction, mystery games, etc.) the powergamer either refuse to take part, sulk, whine/demand that the gm and players skip over or handwave the rp stuff so that he or she can get on with killing things  or tries to kill whomever the rp'ers are trying to interact with socially (It is this addition that seperates the powergamer from a min/maxer among the people with whom I have played. Hence, we consider it to be possible to minimax/optimize for combat without being a powergamer). Actually, depending on the group, min-maxing can be a problem depending on the extent of min-maxing. In some groups,  minimaxing would be a problem for the following reasons:1. Allocation of starting skill points that does not reflect the character's background and/or the cultures of the GM's setting.  For example, you want the to be a particular class which can only be found among a certain herding culture and then fail to take at least one rank in handle animal.2. Upon levelinga. rather than allocating points to cross-class skills that the character had the chance to develop,  the player either spends the points on class skills that the character has not used in adventures over the past level or on a skill that the player had no chance to learn.b. multiclassing when there has been nobody available to train you in the new class.c. Taking a PrC, because it was part of the player's planned build despite the party having chosen to spend their time adventuring in another part of the setting where the PrC does not exist.</blockquote>

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