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<blockquote data-quote="Victim" data-source="post: 4182526" data-attributes="member: 78">It does require caster level boosts though.&nbsp; Otherwise that 25d6 cap doesn't get used.&nbsp; Especially when the spell first becomes available.&nbsp; Sure, an 8th level spell caps at 25d6.&nbsp; Too bad the 15th level wizard casting it is only doing 15d6 - the same as a 4th level single target spell according to those guidelines above.&nbsp; Some upgrade.&nbsp; So you could strip out the secondary feature, and SR: No conjuration BS from Orb spells, and Polar Ray is worse at 15th level.&nbsp; A few more levels gives it fairly minor damage advantages at the cost of a much higher level spell.And if you're using Core for balance, then caster level boosts for arcanists are rather scarce, so the high damage cap is wasted even at 20th level.That's why high level damage dealing spells should have additional advantages appropriate to their spell level.&nbsp; To say otherwise is to suggest that save based attacks shouldn't get any stronger in effect as they advance in level either - you're getting that sweet +1 DC per extra spell level after all.&nbsp; And even that comes into play immediately when the spell is available, instead over after a few extra levels.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Victim, post: 4182526, member: 78"] It does require caster level boosts though. Otherwise that 25d6 cap doesn't get used. Especially when the spell first becomes available. Sure, an 8th level spell caps at 25d6. Too bad the 15th level wizard casting it is only doing 15d6 - the same as a 4th level single target spell according to those guidelines above. Some upgrade. So you could strip out the secondary feature, and SR: No conjuration BS from Orb spells, and Polar Ray is worse at 15th level. A few more levels gives it fairly minor damage advantages at the cost of a much higher level spell. And if you're using Core for balance, then caster level boosts for arcanists are rather scarce, so the high damage cap is wasted even at 20th level. That's why high level damage dealing spells should have additional advantages appropriate to their spell level. To say otherwise is to suggest that save based attacks shouldn't get any stronger in effect as they advance in level either - you're getting that sweet +1 DC per extra spell level after all. And even that comes into play immediately when the spell is available, instead over after a few extra levels. [/QUOTE]

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