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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 6066199" data-attributes="member: 2067"><p>So if we can put that hook on the back of that hammer....why shouldn't we? If we can improve the support for [MENTION=9037]Elf Witch[/MENTION] 's games by building a system that is happy to accommodate them, why not do that? If D&D CAN support more "realism," why shouldn't it?</p><p></p><p>I think sometimes people get wrapped up in the idea that this is a zero-sum kind of situation, but it's not. Leveling in D&D doesn't HAVE to come with big HP boosts, and it doesn't have to NOT come with big HP boosts, it can be both, one at one table, one at another, maybe both swapping off at the same table depending on the style of the game you want (Dark Sun maybe grim-n-gritty, FR maybe not). </p><p></p><p>I don't see any convincing argument that says that D&D shouldn't take the fact that some people use it for some grim-n-gritty games, and <em>make that more possible</em>. It's had a history of enabling or at least permitting it already, and it's something that it keeps trying to make stabs at once in a while, it's something there's clearly a demand for, so why not just build a game engine robust enough to friggin' do it already and stop trying to pretend that everyone's D&D games should play exactly the same and that if it doesn't play that way it shouldn't be "D&D"? That sort of gatekeeping does not mesh with the way RPGs are played (and my own pet theory is that part of why 4e struggled was because it tried to keep the gates like that). </p><p></p><p>There is reason to believe 5e is going to do this, and the d20 system proved the underlying assumption: you do not need to learn an entirely different game to play a slightly more gritty version of heroic fantasy. You can play D&D. D&D just needs to let itself be used like that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 6066199, member: 2067"] So if we can put that hook on the back of that hammer....why shouldn't we? If we can improve the support for [MENTION=9037]Elf Witch[/MENTION] 's games by building a system that is happy to accommodate them, why not do that? If D&D CAN support more "realism," why shouldn't it? I think sometimes people get wrapped up in the idea that this is a zero-sum kind of situation, but it's not. Leveling in D&D doesn't HAVE to come with big HP boosts, and it doesn't have to NOT come with big HP boosts, it can be both, one at one table, one at another, maybe both swapping off at the same table depending on the style of the game you want (Dark Sun maybe grim-n-gritty, FR maybe not). I don't see any convincing argument that says that D&D shouldn't take the fact that some people use it for some grim-n-gritty games, and [I]make that more possible[/I]. It's had a history of enabling or at least permitting it already, and it's something that it keeps trying to make stabs at once in a while, it's something there's clearly a demand for, so why not just build a game engine robust enough to friggin' do it already and stop trying to pretend that everyone's D&D games should play exactly the same and that if it doesn't play that way it shouldn't be "D&D"? That sort of gatekeeping does not mesh with the way RPGs are played (and my own pet theory is that part of why 4e struggled was because it tried to keep the gates like that). There is reason to believe 5e is going to do this, and the d20 system proved the underlying assumption: you do not need to learn an entirely different game to play a slightly more gritty version of heroic fantasy. You can play D&D. D&D just needs to let itself be used like that. [/QUOTE]
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