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<blockquote data-quote="Kobold Stew" data-source="post: 9436679" data-attributes="member: 23484">I think this is mistaken.A non-caster can take this feat, and take PB first-level rituals, and have them from any list. Additionally, they can swift-cast one of them per long rest. That's strong, and add in the +1 ASI, it's good.A caster can also take this feat. For them, the two free spells will matter less (esp. if they are a wizard; they can have them copied in their books anyways), but they still might choose the feat (a) to get spells on another list, and (b) to get the swift-caster ability. This is a better feat for non-casters than for casters, in my opinion. BUT!&nbsp; One thing it doesn't do is let you have that 2014 did is upper-level rituals, so (as far as I've seen in the previews and reveals) the only way to get Phantom Steed (for example) as a ritual is to have 5 levels of Wizard or 6 as Lore bard. (People with the book -- please correct me if I'm wrong!). But that's, I think, what Ritual caster loses in 2024.(The Tomelock gets cantrips and any two level-1 rituals each time the book is summoned; and so fewer rits available at any time, but a broader range available if you can plan your day. But still no upper-level rituals.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kobold Stew, post: 9436679, member: 23484"] I think this is mistaken. A non-caster can take this feat, and take PB first-level rituals, and have them from any list. Additionally, they can swift-cast one of them per long rest. That's strong, and add in the +1 ASI, it's good. A caster can also take this feat. For them, the two free spells will matter less (esp. if they are a wizard; they can have them copied in their books anyways), but they still might choose the feat (a) to get spells on another list, and (b) to get the swift-caster ability. This is a better feat for non-casters than for casters, in my opinion. BUT! One thing it doesn't do is let you have that 2014 did is upper-level rituals, so (as far as I've seen in the previews and reveals) the only way to get Phantom Steed (for example) as a ritual is to have 5 levels of Wizard or 6 as Lore bard. (People with the book -- please correct me if I'm wrong!). But that's, I think, what Ritual caster loses in 2024. (The Tomelock gets cantrips and any two level-1 rituals each time the book is summoned; and so fewer rits available at any time, but a broader range available if you can plan your day. But still no upper-level rituals.) [/QUOTE]

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