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Message: <blockquote data-quote="harpy" data-source="post: 4975270" data-attributes="member: 85243">Thanks all for the replies, my mind is crunching it all.One of the things I wanted to understand was why there wasn't a "running attack" feat.  Not spring attack with it's ability to avoid AoO, but just move/attack/move with AoO still wide open.When going up against a large (tall) or bigger creature then tumble isn't going to be able to help a rogue get in and out of the natural reach zone, at least for the average character since tumble only gives 15' of movement.  So in that regard I can see how Spring Attack in and of itself is worthwhile, the prerequisites, not so much.But how would the game fall apart with a Running Attack feat.Now, we have the situation where people can run up, poke someone and then step away, and they can do that over and over again.  It just that wider strategies of the game aren't being considered?  As the game exists right now the field of combat is very static.  People charge, make contact and then the fight bogs down into a lot of shuffling with five foot steps, with a few other repositionings and then five rounds later its over.If characters could move more fluidly then you see more cinematic battles and terrain becomes more important.  If I as a DM had players with a Running Attack feat, and who delighted in poke and run tactics then I'd just adjust scenarios so that the characters weren't going up against solo or only a few monsters.  Overrun and Bullrush would also become far more valuable actions, and at that point the game becomes more fun because you see people getting shoved around, people darting here and there, etc.If a DM creates scenarios where the tank can pin down the solo monster and then the other characters can dart in and out with impunity, I can see how it would be seen that move/attack/move would seem broken.  However, that has more to do with poor scenario design and tactics on the DMs part, stuck in a more static frame of reference.I've had a chance to play a archer/ranger character for quite awhile and from my experience, while it was fun to have shot on the run as a option, inevitably my character needed to output as much damage as possible, which meant full attacks with rapid shot and iterative attacks, so the feat wasn't really being used, save in some very specific situations.</blockquote>

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