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<blockquote data-quote="Petrosian" data-source="post: 782943" data-attributes="member: 1149">Regarding the dagger and greatsword penetrate equally well and the notion that that is somehow wrong...DnD is intended to streamline combat and to focus decisions on various elements. Its also intended to encourage FANTASY style characters and events, not REAL LIFE or historical simulationist.In REAL WORLD, their would not be a dagger guy character expecting to do well at all against a plated fighter.In fantasy, the dagger expert rogue should not be a character eliminated from consideration because of trolls supertough hide and the plate armor hanging offf most of his adversaries after the early levels.Weapon selection in fantasy novels and characters is often more of a statement about the character's personality and is only rarely a choice reflecting the actual combat intricacies and differences of the weapons.DND, by not delving too far into those differences, does anyone recall the never used weapon vs armor type chart from 1e?, leaves that vital aspect to a large extent to character flavor.If you don't like the str adds tohit and armor is block not reduce, then house rule them. As you observe, if enough people play that way, not if enough people argue that way, then it may change later.However, if inciting change by popular fiat is your goal, actual play results is a better tack than sustaining a one-vs-many thread which simply points to your opinion being a minority one.Come back in house rules a year from now with a detailed rules set that works better and see if that gets a different response than &quot;maybe dnd is wrong?&quot; repeated over and over.or, not. your call.enjoy your games.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Petrosian, post: 782943, member: 1149"] Regarding the dagger and greatsword penetrate equally well and the notion that that is somehow wrong... DnD is intended to streamline combat and to focus decisions on various elements. Its also intended to encourage FANTASY style characters and events, not REAL LIFE or historical simulationist. In REAL WORLD, their would not be a dagger guy character expecting to do well at all against a plated fighter. In fantasy, the dagger expert rogue should not be a character eliminated from consideration because of trolls supertough hide and the plate armor hanging offf most of his adversaries after the early levels. Weapon selection in fantasy novels and characters is often more of a statement about the character's personality and is only rarely a choice reflecting the actual combat intricacies and differences of the weapons. DND, by not delving too far into those differences, does anyone recall the never used weapon vs armor type chart from 1e?, leaves that vital aspect to a large extent to character flavor. If you don't like the str adds tohit and armor is block not reduce, then house rule them. As you observe, if enough people play that way, not if enough people argue that way, then it may change later. However, if inciting change by popular fiat is your goal, actual play results is a better tack than sustaining a one-vs-many thread which simply points to your opinion being a minority one. Come back in house rules a year from now with a detailed rules set that works better and see if that gets a different response than "maybe dnd is wrong?" repeated over and over. or, not. your call. enjoy your games. [/QUOTE]

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