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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Alcamtar" data-source="post: 258560" data-attributes="member: 3842">Some followup comments.First, I still agree with everything SableWyvern has said -- including clarifications -- so won't repeat that here.Second, I didn't mean to imply that using the MM is stupid or lazy. I use it myself, and yes I also like using some classic monsters. And I often use monsters without modification. There's nothing *wrong* with using the MM, and it's a great resource and idea book.I don't even necessary "object" to it being a core rulebook -- I think it's the *rule* book aspect that bothers me. It's more the attitude that it is a rulebook, the attitude that there is a "rule" about what orcs are and what they aren't, a "rule" about how they can be modified, and so forth.For example, I hear a lot of people say "3E is better because now you can have tough, unpredictable orcs." Yet, you could always do that. It takes roughly 2 seonds to say "this orc has 6 HD and 20 strength, and I think I'll add two feats also." A new monster is just as easy.Like SableWyvern, I also read the Vampire thread and that was partially in my mind as I was posting. I'm also thinking about all the times someone has proposed a small tweak in this or that (for whatever reason) and others chimed in and said "sure if you want to, but I prefer to trust the designers." And I'm thinking of all the times someone has suggested doing something new and different and others chime in with "well, just take monster X and add class levels" as if any other approach is unthinkable.It's the culture of "I'll do everything 100% by the book even if it seems broken, because the designers know best" that bothers me. (Yes I've heard people say that.) And the attitude of "It's okay to make up stuff, but if a rule exists you should use that instead." This is not as bad, except that in 3E there is a rule for pretty much everything, so if you always stick to them you greatly limit your possibilities. I mean its fine if you just like playing that way... whatever floats your boat, after all. Anyway I don't mean to imply anyone is doing it wrong, just that thre is no one "right way" to do it.Mike</blockquote>

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