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Why is the Vancian system still so popular?
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<blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 5882500" data-attributes="member: 35909"><p>Vancian is popular because it's a good resource management system. You have access to a lot of potential options, but on a given day you have to choose which ones to have and how much of each. People like stuff that rewards smart resource management.</p><p></p><p>My favorite system I've seen is probably the one in Arcana Unearthed/Evolved, a 3E variant system by Monte Cook. Casters had certain lists that they could draw spells from (there were simple, complex, and exotic spells, and every spell had a descriptor like fire or positive energy, and the list was shared by all magic users). Mostly it was "all simple spells plus complex (and maybe exotic) spells of X, Y, and/or Z descriptors that fit your class theme."</p><p>Anyway, you choose from your spell lists the spells you wish to <s>know</s> prepare, and can then spont. cast them like a sorcerer... except, you get to choose each day which ones to prepare, so you're not forever locked into your choices like a sorcerer would be.</p><p></p><p>I like the flexibility and decision making that system gives you. I also like that the spells were generally weakened from 3E, at least the more powerful options. Save or die was largely absent completely (might've been some that relied knowing the target's truename, I forget, but the whole truename mechanic was a part of that system I didn't like so much anyway).</p><p></p><p>I also have <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/new-horizons-upcoming-edition-d-d/319803-ideas-musings-my-ideal-magic-rules-system.html" target="_blank">ideas on a new type of magic system</a> to try that no one else seems to like.</p><p><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Thank you! I read through this whole thread just trying to find out what the hell this weird aronym everyone keeps throwing around stands for other than "4E powers system."</p><p></p><p>At-will Encounter Daily Utility. Here I thought it was some sort of phrase like "Attack E....? as Directed by User."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="StreamOfTheSky, post: 5882500, member: 35909"] Vancian is popular because it's a good resource management system. You have access to a lot of potential options, but on a given day you have to choose which ones to have and how much of each. People like stuff that rewards smart resource management. My favorite system I've seen is probably the one in Arcana Unearthed/Evolved, a 3E variant system by Monte Cook. Casters had certain lists that they could draw spells from (there were simple, complex, and exotic spells, and every spell had a descriptor like fire or positive energy, and the list was shared by all magic users). Mostly it was "all simple spells plus complex (and maybe exotic) spells of X, Y, and/or Z descriptors that fit your class theme." Anyway, you choose from your spell lists the spells you wish to [s]know[/s] prepare, and can then spont. cast them like a sorcerer... except, you get to choose each day which ones to prepare, so you're not forever locked into your choices like a sorcerer would be. I like the flexibility and decision making that system gives you. I also like that the spells were generally weakened from 3E, at least the more powerful options. Save or die was largely absent completely (might've been some that relied knowing the target's truename, I forget, but the whole truename mechanic was a part of that system I didn't like so much anyway). I also have [url=http://www.enworld.org/forum/new-horizons-upcoming-edition-d-d/319803-ideas-musings-my-ideal-magic-rules-system.html]ideas on a new type of magic system[/url] to try that no one else seems to like. ;) Thank you! I read through this whole thread just trying to find out what the hell this weird aronym everyone keeps throwing around stands for other than "4E powers system." At-will Encounter Daily Utility. Here I thought it was some sort of phrase like "Attack E....? as Directed by User." [/QUOTE]
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