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Why is the Vancian system still so popular?
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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5883026" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>I tend to look at Vancian casting in the same way that I view HP and AC. Sure, it's wonky. Sure it's got its warts. But, at the end of the day, it's simple, it's easy to use and, above all, it works.</p><p></p><p>That's a REALLY hard combo to topple. Spell points are perhaps better, but, they're more complicated and require a lot more work from the player. At the levels that most campaigns play at - say 3-12th, for more of those levels managing a wizard isn't too taxing. Clerics might be a bit more work because of the longer spell list, but, usually not that difficult.</p><p></p><p>Fast, easy, simple, discrete. That's a pretty nice system right there. The primary problems with it are legacy items - spells that really need to either go away, be much higher level, or changed to be less "versatile" and the presumed length of an adventuring day. Telling the low level caster that he gets to throw darts for most of the adventure because he's just not good enough to actually do the things his character is supposed to do most of the time, is not my idea of fun.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 5883026, member: 22779"] I tend to look at Vancian casting in the same way that I view HP and AC. Sure, it's wonky. Sure it's got its warts. But, at the end of the day, it's simple, it's easy to use and, above all, it works. That's a REALLY hard combo to topple. Spell points are perhaps better, but, they're more complicated and require a lot more work from the player. At the levels that most campaigns play at - say 3-12th, for more of those levels managing a wizard isn't too taxing. Clerics might be a bit more work because of the longer spell list, but, usually not that difficult. Fast, easy, simple, discrete. That's a pretty nice system right there. The primary problems with it are legacy items - spells that really need to either go away, be much higher level, or changed to be less "versatile" and the presumed length of an adventuring day. Telling the low level caster that he gets to throw darts for most of the adventure because he's just not good enough to actually do the things his character is supposed to do most of the time, is not my idea of fun. [/QUOTE]
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