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Why is the Vancian system still so popular?
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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 5886899" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>Yes, by default, I suppose. It may not be what you want or what you intend to demand, but it is what you are arguing for.</p><p></p><p>Well, the only way to deliver that that's worked so far has been giving them, and other martial classes, daily powers. Which you objected to.</p><p></p><p>Now, 5e is supposed to be all modular and have something for everyone from every ed. I would really like to see martial dailies and martial healing. It makes it possible to balance martial and casting classes, obviously, but it also gives martial heroes 'plot power' - a chance to contribute meaningfully and dramatically at a critical moment.</p><p></p><p>Rather than demand that be taken away from those who like it, demand that an alternative resource-management/peak-power scheme be available that's balanced with both the 'vancian' casters as the 4e-style martial dailies. Martial dailies have the virtue of being easily compared to vancian spells, mechanically, so balancing them should be fairly easy. From there, it might be possible to work out other balanced resource schemes, and even attempt to balance the more traditional non-casters, and perhaps some less-traditional non-vancian casters, like the warmage or the original warlock.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 5886899, member: 996"] Yes, by default, I suppose. It may not be what you want or what you intend to demand, but it is what you are arguing for. Well, the only way to deliver that that's worked so far has been giving them, and other martial classes, daily powers. Which you objected to. Now, 5e is supposed to be all modular and have something for everyone from every ed. I would really like to see martial dailies and martial healing. It makes it possible to balance martial and casting classes, obviously, but it also gives martial heroes 'plot power' - a chance to contribute meaningfully and dramatically at a critical moment. Rather than demand that be taken away from those who like it, demand that an alternative resource-management/peak-power scheme be available that's balanced with both the 'vancian' casters as the 4e-style martial dailies. Martial dailies have the virtue of being easily compared to vancian spells, mechanically, so balancing them should be fairly easy. From there, it might be possible to work out other balanced resource schemes, and even attempt to balance the more traditional non-casters, and perhaps some less-traditional non-vancian casters, like the warmage or the original warlock. [/QUOTE]
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