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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 7968006" data-attributes="member: 18">So what do you think someone with the calligrapher's supplies proficiency does in &quot;D&amp;D&quot;? I don't buy your &quot;He's a true artist who does what he wants with what he wants!&quot; holds any water, because even we treat it as more akin to the 1700s or 1800s, it still doesn't work out that way.As for getting access to the inks etc. that's my point. You going to need to do that anyway to do a really good forgery.Still seems laughable to me. The idea that calligraphy/calligraphic forgery in D&amp;D is as alien from calligraphy/calligraphic forgery in the real world as psionics is from brain surgery just is not viable.What I'm not seeing is any valid argument that isn't essentially a slightly veiled ad hominem directed at me. I haven't seen any reference to how the techniques of calligraphy or the like would actually differ from the real world. Pointing out that a wizard might make magic paper or magic seal is valid, but it just doesn't interact with what I'm saying. Ink is ink. Paper is paper. Quills are quills. If they're not, then that's interesting, but we're talking generic D&amp;D and there's no indication that they're not.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 7968006, member: 18"] So what do you think someone with the calligrapher's supplies proficiency does in "D&D"? I don't buy your "He's a true artist who does what he wants with what he wants!" holds any water, because even we treat it as more akin to the 1700s or 1800s, it still doesn't work out that way. As for getting access to the inks etc. that's my point. You going to need to do that anyway to do a really good forgery. Still seems laughable to me. The idea that calligraphy/calligraphic forgery in D&D is as alien from calligraphy/calligraphic forgery in the real world as psionics is from brain surgery just is not viable. What I'm not seeing is any valid argument that isn't essentially a slightly veiled [I]ad hominem[/I] directed at me. I haven't seen any reference to how the techniques of calligraphy or the like would actually differ from the real world. Pointing out that a wizard might make magic paper or magic seal is valid, but it just doesn't interact with what I'm saying. Ink is ink. Paper is paper. Quills are quills. If they're not, then that's interesting, but we're talking generic D&D and there's no indication that they're not. [/QUOTE]

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