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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 7968665" data-attributes="member: 6801228">I think we are agreeing with each other. Of course amatuer artists who are paying homage aren't trying to forge pieces that will pass a professional examination, but that isn't the point. The point is that the skill set is the same. You cannot forge paintings if you are not a painter. You just can't do it. And of course, you need the proper tools, but a forgery kit isn't the proper tools for forging a painting. Heck, painter's tools might not be good enough if you need goblin-berry red to accurately use the same paint. But buying the proper materials isn't a skill. Aging effects only matter if you need to age something, and again, have nothing to do with the skill, they are probably a bit of alchemtist supplies to be honest, if you want to get really clever with &quot;ancient text&quot; But, Water Vehicles, covers everything from a single-seat canoe to a 500 strong War Galleon. So why can't Calligraphy proficiency include knowledge of how to age paper so it looks like the same paper in a book you are repairing? I'm speaking only about the skill proficiency, the physical objects just need to be purchased.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 7968665, member: 6801228"] I think we are agreeing with each other. Of course amatuer artists who are paying homage aren't trying to forge pieces that will pass a professional examination, but that isn't the point. The point is that the skill set is the same. You cannot forge paintings if you are not a painter. You just can't do it. And of course, you need the proper tools, but a forgery kit isn't the proper tools for forging a painting. Heck, painter's tools might not be good enough if you need [I]goblin-berry red[/I] to accurately use the same paint. But buying the proper materials isn't a skill. Aging effects only matter if you need to age something, and again, have nothing to do with the skill, they are probably a bit of alchemtist supplies to be honest, if you want to get really clever with "ancient text" But, Water Vehicles, covers everything from a single-seat canoe to a 500 strong War Galleon. So why can't Calligraphy proficiency include knowledge of how to age paper so it looks like the same paper in a book you are repairing? I'm speaking only about the skill proficiency, the physical objects just need to be purchased. [/QUOTE]

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