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<blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 8032294" data-attributes="member: 6987520">Honestly, I don't mind the idea of bounded accuracy, but they just went too far IMO. A cap of 40 would work better to me, and still avoid the treadmill effect. But anyway, to your point, does the Paladin never Stealth? Does the Barbarian never learn from others around him when they discuss Arcana information? So, although these things might not be &quot;practiced&quot;, they are used and exposed to enough that using a half-proficiency bonus would work fine IMO.Yep, they get killed (potentially) every time that dagger takes them to 0 hp. The problem is when a 200 hp character decides to stab himself in the heart (no idea why, but whatever...) and doesn't die! I completely agree with you about how HP works, so how does the dagger not kill the character in such a case?This is where narration has to trump mechanics. The DM just tells the player, &quot;Ok, your character is dead. Happy?&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DND_Reborn, post: 8032294, member: 6987520"] Honestly, I don't mind the [I]idea[/I] of bounded accuracy, but they just went too far IMO. A cap of 40 would work better to me, and still avoid the treadmill effect. But anyway, to your point, does the Paladin [I]never[/I] Stealth? Does the Barbarian [I]never[/I] learn from others around him when they discuss Arcana information? So, although these things might not be "practiced", they are used and exposed to enough that using a half-proficiency bonus would work fine IMO. Yep, they get killed (potentially) every time that dagger takes them to 0 hp. The problem is when a 200 hp character decides to stab himself in the heart (no idea why, but whatever...) and doesn't die! I [I]completely[/I] agree with you about how HP works, so how does the dagger [I]not[/I] kill the character in such a case? This is where narration has to trump mechanics. The DM just tells the player, "Ok, your character is dead. Happy?" [/QUOTE]

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