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<blockquote data-quote="Votan" data-source="post: 5472522" data-attributes="member: 18680">I think we can agree that we have different opinions of the TrollLord games products.&nbsp; I rather like C&amp;C as an interesting take on the game.&nbsp; I agree that the writing has issues but I would also argue that Paizo has some of the best production quality out there.&nbsp; Many companies would suffer by comparison to them (Paizo).The real thing I liked about C&amp;C was the attempt to minimize rule bloat and still have a fun/usable system.&nbsp; Do they completely succeed?&nbsp; No, they do not.&nbsp; Have they convinced me to buy their products?&nbsp; Yes.&nbsp; Has their slow production schedule cost them players?&nbsp; Yes, my Seattle gaming group might have gone C&amp;C when we left 3.5 D&amp;D except that they were having trouble keeping the Player's Handbook in print and the CKG appeared to delayed.&nbsp; We ended up using Rolemaster, instead.&nbsp; On the other hand, my perfect bound copy is still in transit so maybe I will be eating my words when it arrives.&nbsp; I am hoping that it is full of good ideas, for which I will forgive the editing and prose.&nbsp; If the good ideas are lacking then the production quality will start really mattering.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Votan, post: 5472522, member: 18680"] I think we can agree that we have different opinions of the TrollLord games products. I rather like C&C as an interesting take on the game. I agree that the writing has issues but I would also argue that Paizo has some of the best production quality out there. Many companies would suffer by comparison to them (Paizo). The real thing I liked about C&C was the attempt to minimize rule bloat and still have a fun/usable system. Do they completely succeed? No, they do not. Have they convinced me to buy their products? Yes. Has their slow production schedule cost them players? Yes, my Seattle gaming group might have gone C&C when we left 3.5 D&D except that they were having trouble keeping the Player's Handbook in print and the CKG appeared to delayed. We ended up using Rolemaster, instead. On the other hand, my perfect bound copy is still in transit so maybe I will be eating my words when it arrives. I am hoping that it is full of good ideas, for which I will forgive the editing and prose. If the good ideas are lacking then the production quality will start really mattering. [/QUOTE]

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