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Message: <blockquote data-quote="UngeheuerLich" data-source="post: 9337221" data-attributes="member: 59057">See. You are still talking about the battlemaster. That is not where I had started. It had started woth a redesign of the fighter. That really includes parts of the warlord.No, I have not seen homebrews in play.*Now please elaborate: how did the "princess" work with 4e warlord? It was dumping str and not using all the fighting capabilities of the warlord class and only focus on powers that don't need to hit. That playstyle warrants an own class. The battlefield commander does not. It is what the fighter should have included all along.*read them again, and there is nothing in those classes, a fighter should not have available to them. combine those classess, and you finally have a martial character that can compete in a way with spellcasters.</blockquote>