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Why is There No Warlord Equivalent in 5E?
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<blockquote data-quote="GrimCo" data-source="post: 9343602" data-attributes="member: 7044462"><p>Comparing 4e and 5e is like comparing apples to tomatoes. Both are fruit ( dnd editions). But they are conceptually very different. 4e is built around small unit tactics and plays more like small scale tactical wargame. Classes have more focused roles and specific area where they shine and whole game is build around party synergy. 5e has more individualistic aproach and classes are more broad in their design. You are bunch of individual heroes. </p><p></p><p>For example, i played lv 15 champion fighter recently. It could switch from tank to crit fisher damager instantly. Took slasher and dual wielder, defensive and twf fighting styles, 2 longswords. Round one sword and board, then i discover that monster hits damn hard and has solid to hit ( but nothing crazy). Druid drops fearie fire on him. I drop shield (-1 ac) pull out longsword and go to town with action surge. 7 attacks,14 dice rolls, 18-20 crit. Meat grinder goes brrrr. By simple shield to weapon swap it went from tank to dps (defender to striker). </p><p></p><p>Also, in combat healing is suboptimal choice in 5e after first 2-3 levels. Even clerics have hard time out healing damage monsters do. It's better option to go for fast kill than burn slots for healing in most cases. Guiding bolt over cure wounds so to speak. </p><p></p><p>Playing support characters sucks for most people. There is a meme for reason back in the day that if you come last, you are stuck playing cleric. 4e was exception cause of design choice to focus on tactical team combat.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GrimCo, post: 9343602, member: 7044462"] Comparing 4e and 5e is like comparing apples to tomatoes. Both are fruit ( dnd editions). But they are conceptually very different. 4e is built around small unit tactics and plays more like small scale tactical wargame. Classes have more focused roles and specific area where they shine and whole game is build around party synergy. 5e has more individualistic aproach and classes are more broad in their design. You are bunch of individual heroes. For example, i played lv 15 champion fighter recently. It could switch from tank to crit fisher damager instantly. Took slasher and dual wielder, defensive and twf fighting styles, 2 longswords. Round one sword and board, then i discover that monster hits damn hard and has solid to hit ( but nothing crazy). Druid drops fearie fire on him. I drop shield (-1 ac) pull out longsword and go to town with action surge. 7 attacks,14 dice rolls, 18-20 crit. Meat grinder goes brrrr. By simple shield to weapon swap it went from tank to dps (defender to striker). Also, in combat healing is suboptimal choice in 5e after first 2-3 levels. Even clerics have hard time out healing damage monsters do. It's better option to go for fast kill than burn slots for healing in most cases. Guiding bolt over cure wounds so to speak. Playing support characters sucks for most people. There is a meme for reason back in the day that if you come last, you are stuck playing cleric. 4e was exception cause of design choice to focus on tactical team combat. [/QUOTE]
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