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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9345070" data-attributes="member: 6790260">Alright. I have seen them do just fine. Are they the best? No. That is, as you say, the cheesiness of a Bladesinger who never has to fight more than Proficiency bonus fights a day (since, y'know, a huge chunk of their AC depends on it), and who exclusively blows slots on tanking and nothing else, sure, they can almost be unhittable. For everything that isn't ripe-aged Limburger, Barbarian is only a small step down. It is, I agree, still a step down. But it's still good. Not being the ultimate cheesefest does not make someone bad at something.Until, of course, that Bladesinger takes a crit to the face and eats dirt because a nasty crit wipes them out good, being, y'know, a Wizard with d6 HP and pressing need to max Intelligence as quickly as humanly possible for more AC (meaning, at best, they're getting 8 HP at first level and 6 thereafter.) Hit points don't matter until they do, film at 11. Come on, man. Good AC is definitely helpful, but it is far from the only solution, and isn't even always the best solution. Your comparison is simply not apples to apples. Some of the lowest possible AC, at low level, on a class with at best average HP (remember, a level 3 Barbarian is still gonna have about 40% more HP than a Bard, on average/if using static HP which almost everyone does). That vs literally the largest HD in the game, on a class that gets AC from having higher Constitution and which can naturally use a shield, and which naturally gets resistance to all damage types more often than a Bladesinger gets their AC boost. (Keep in mind, Bladesong per day is actually less frequent than Rage per day at level 3-4, 6-8, and 12; it is never more frequent than Rage, and for the levels most people play, it's behind a bout as often as not.)</blockquote>

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