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Why is There No Warlord Equivalent in 5E?
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<blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 9345099" data-attributes="member: 58172"><p>Consider the playtest Glossary for 2024. It is trying to distinguish the Abilities more clearly from each other.</p><p></p><p>"</p><p>STUDY [ACTION]</p><p></p><p>When you take the Study action, you make an <strong>Intelligence</strong> check to study your memory, a book, a creature, a clue, an object, <strong>or another source of knowledge</strong> and call to mind an important piece</p><p>of information about it.</p><p></p><p>The Areas of Knowledge table suggests which skills are applicable when you take this action,</p><p>depending on the area of knowledge the Intelligence check is about.</p><p></p><p>"</p><p></p><p>The "knowledge" of Intelligence can come from anywhere, including an intuitive grasp to discern surprising details.</p><p></p><p></p><p>By contrast ...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>"</p><p>SEARCH [ACTION]</p><p></p><p>When you take the Search action, you make a <strong>Wisdom </strong>check to discern something that isn’t obvious. The Search table suggests which skills are applicable when you take this action, depending on what you’re trying to <strong>detect</strong>.</p><p></p><p>Insight Creature’s state of mind</p><p>Medicine Creature’s ailment</p><p><strong>Perception</strong> Concealed creature or object</p><p>Survival Tracks or food</p><p></p><p>"</p><p></p><p>The Perception skill is only for "detecting" something "concealed". Thats it. Nothing else.</p><p></p><p>But in a D&D game, noticing something hidden is a big deal.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I feel strongly, Insight (= Empathy) belongs with Charisma as a necessary social skill. It is impossible to be Charismatic without understanding and reading people. Medicine to diagnose someones illness is so obviously an Intelligence check − but whatever. Maybe the idea is looking for subtle symptoms that most usually dont notice.</p><p></p><p>Detecting animal tracks is noticing easily missed sensory perceptions, including faint scents, broken leaves, and having the skill itself means the character is familiar with what to look for.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Yaarel, post: 9345099, member: 58172"] Consider the playtest Glossary for 2024. It is trying to distinguish the Abilities more clearly from each other. " STUDY [ACTION] When you take the Study action, you make an [B]Intelligence[/B] check to study your memory, a book, a creature, a clue, an object, [B]or another source of knowledge[/B] and call to mind an important piece of information about it. The Areas of Knowledge table suggests which skills are applicable when you take this action, depending on the area of knowledge the Intelligence check is about. " The "knowledge" of Intelligence can come from anywhere, including an intuitive grasp to discern surprising details. By contrast ... " SEARCH [ACTION] When you take the Search action, you make a [B]Wisdom [/B]check to discern something that isn’t obvious. The Search table suggests which skills are applicable when you take this action, depending on what you’re trying to [B]detect[/B]. Insight Creature’s state of mind Medicine Creature’s ailment [B]Perception[/B] Concealed creature or object Survival Tracks or food " The Perception skill is only for "detecting" something "concealed". Thats it. Nothing else. But in a D&D game, noticing something hidden is a big deal. I feel strongly, Insight (= Empathy) belongs with Charisma as a necessary social skill. It is impossible to be Charismatic without understanding and reading people. Medicine to diagnose someones illness is so obviously an Intelligence check − but whatever. Maybe the idea is looking for subtle symptoms that most usually dont notice. Detecting animal tracks is noticing easily missed sensory perceptions, including faint scents, broken leaves, and having the skill itself means the character is familiar with what to look for. [/QUOTE]
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