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WHY is there (still) no Class that allows you to use both Arcane and Divine magic...?
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<blockquote data-quote="The Grassy Gnoll" data-source="post: 6886447" data-attributes="member: 6788652"><p>Perhaps a distinction between 'arcane' and 'divine' is that divine spells are granted by deities, who fundamentally have a concern with preserving life, or in other words, maintaining and growing their customer base. If deities draw their power from the belief of their followers, the ability to heal/affect people is a key focus. No trees, no people = no people, no deity. </p><p></p><p>Arcane magic is not concerned so much with people but with the universe. Their magic originates on the material plane and is manipulated by entities (casters) who project that energy outward from themselves out into the world. Divine magic originates from the deity and is channelled into the person of the caster and from thence outward, thus making it inexorably linked to the physical corporeal vessel through which it flows. </p><p></p><p>Arcane casting is not therefore a reaching within and pulling out, but a reaching out and pushing/pulling around.</p><p></p><p>If that makes sense. Just a random ponder as to one way of looking at why never the twain in D&D. </p><p></p><p>In fantasy literature, divine casters are pretty rare. By fantasy lit I mean, 'source' lit as opposed to lit set in the D&D worlds with the baked in game rules assumed. Most fantasy lit casters cast spells. They're the only casters of spells, so all spells can be cast by a person called a wizard, because clerics don't exist, and healing/necromantic magic is useful - thus, the wizard casts it.</p><p></p><p>What do I know? It's late, I'm out of cigarettes, I am not wearing sunglasses and I'm a very long way from Chicago so I doubt I 'hit' it. But one possible reason.</p><p></p><p>As to how you can fix it so that wizards can cast all magic, is abolish clerics/Paladins and reassign the cleric spells (possibly involving a few name changes), amongst the schools of wizardry to give an expanded spell selection.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Grassy Gnoll, post: 6886447, member: 6788652"] Perhaps a distinction between 'arcane' and 'divine' is that divine spells are granted by deities, who fundamentally have a concern with preserving life, or in other words, maintaining and growing their customer base. If deities draw their power from the belief of their followers, the ability to heal/affect people is a key focus. No trees, no people = no people, no deity. Arcane magic is not concerned so much with people but with the universe. Their magic originates on the material plane and is manipulated by entities (casters) who project that energy outward from themselves out into the world. Divine magic originates from the deity and is channelled into the person of the caster and from thence outward, thus making it inexorably linked to the physical corporeal vessel through which it flows. Arcane casting is not therefore a reaching within and pulling out, but a reaching out and pushing/pulling around. If that makes sense. Just a random ponder as to one way of looking at why never the twain in D&D. In fantasy literature, divine casters are pretty rare. By fantasy lit I mean, 'source' lit as opposed to lit set in the D&D worlds with the baked in game rules assumed. Most fantasy lit casters cast spells. They're the only casters of spells, so all spells can be cast by a person called a wizard, because clerics don't exist, and healing/necromantic magic is useful - thus, the wizard casts it. What do I know? It's late, I'm out of cigarettes, I am not wearing sunglasses and I'm a very long way from Chicago so I doubt I 'hit' it. But one possible reason. As to how you can fix it so that wizards can cast all magic, is abolish clerics/Paladins and reassign the cleric spells (possibly involving a few name changes), amongst the schools of wizardry to give an expanded spell selection. [/QUOTE]
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